Dev Tracker: Discussion

[dannyl]

I just don't get why they're doing these updates now when they could have been done like 10 years ago.

This is by far the biggest pet peeve that I have. But it doesn't stop there. Even their newly implemented changes are getting adjusted. (ie, 20 merit KI -> 10 merit KI). Its probably best to just take a long ass break and come back a year or two later to see most requirements and everything else adjusted. Makes no sense to me

[dannyl]

Speaking of borrowing from past titles... you know what would be cool? The gambit system from 12 for trust npcs and hell for yourself as well

HELL YA MAN, loved that

[Damane]

This is by far the biggest pet peeve that I have. But it doesn't stop there. Even their newly implemented changes are getting adjusted. (ie, 20 merit KI -> 10 merit KI). Its probably best to just take a long ass break and come back a year or two later to see most requirements and everything else adjusted. Makes no sense to me

this is dumb, the merit adjustments are made because its to them now OLDE content, they said they will make old content gradually easiere to overcome. Which is very wise to do

[dasva]

Yeah it's the normal make requirements/challenge hard at first for the hardcores then ease things for the general populace later. Normal trying to keep everyone at least somewhat happen policying

[Draylo]

This is by far the biggest pet peeve that I have. But it doesn't stop there. Even their newly implemented changes are getting adjusted. (ie, 20 merit KI -> 10 merit KI). Its probably best to just take a long ass break and come back a year or two later to see most requirements and everything else adjusted. Makes no sense to me

If you look at it like that, that is how it's always been. Take a break before Abyssea and come back to never needing to camp x or y NM, take a break before VW and come back to adoulin and never need toci harness etc. It's the nature of MMO, make things easier after certain time has progressed.

[Gannon]

Looks like there were some posts yesterday about Trusts in PTs, http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/sh...794#post510794 and http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/sh...914#post510914

Anyone able to give a better translation than what google is giving me?

[Fondue]

The following chapters of Rem's Tale will only drop in certain battlefields, as outlined below.

Chapter 6

★Return to Delkfutt's Tower / ★Legacy of the Lost

Chapter 7

★Celestial Nexus

Chapter 8

★The Savage

Chapter 9

★The Warrior's Path

Chapter 10

★Puppet in Peril

this means no chapters from AA at all? seems kinda shitty

[pancakesandsex]

They just mean they aren't random from the listed battlefields anymore. No changes to aas at all.

[Byrthnoth]

I am fairly sure that they are not removing them from AAs. They're just letting you target specific chapters in the other fights.

[dasva]

Yeah pretty sure what they really meant was "The following battlefields will only drop in certain chapters of Rem's Tale as outlined below."

[dannyl]

If you look at it like that, that is how it's always been. Take a break before Abyssea and come back to never needing to camp x or y NM, take a break before VW and come back to adoulin and never need toci harness etc. It's the nature of MMO, make things easier after certain time has progressed.

meh, sort of what I'm saying. I understand the nature of the MMO... I get that Toci's isn't at all viable or nearly anything else that isn't "ilvl". This is tied to chapters which is needed across jobs, slots, etc. Its just baffling that the new content can get adjusted so quickly. Almost suggests they are winging most of this, which for me as a gamer, discourages buy-in from initial release

[ccl]

Unless you took a long time break at some point, it's really fast to be caped with most current optimal gear, can't wait till we move on to the next end game tier.

[Hitou]

Looks like there were some posts yesterday about Trusts in PTs, http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/sh...794#post510794 and http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/sh...914#post510914

Anyone able to give a better translation than what google is giving me?

From what I can make out: As of the June update only a party leader will be able to summon trusts for a party. You have 120 seconds after the party is formed to call trusts after that you won't be able to. Switching party leader, removing a player or dissolving the party will return all trusts. If you switch party leaders the new leader will be able to call trusts immediately. In the future it will change so anyone in the party can call trusts up to the party limit of 6 including the players.

Seems they had to do this because there were some programming issues or something. Kind of annoying but I guess it will be better than nothing for now.

[scaevola]

which for me as a gamer, discourages buy-in from initial release

Why? If you played in High VW Time, presumably you had fun ("fun", I guess) pursuing the stuff you wanted, fun the people who weren't playing weren't able to have.

The question is whether you're getting your $13/month worth at any given time, I guess.

[Shenrien]

During VW time, things were trying to build back up to 18man content, and near the point where Jeuno had been launched we got Legion as well. Abyssea was still relevant content far from dead but with trying to mix 3-6 man content with 18 man it was kind of a nasty time to try and get anything done and shouts were uncommon until we had Zilart.

[dannyl]

Why? If you played in High VW Time, presumably you had fun ("fun", I guess) pursuing the stuff you wanted, fun the people who weren't playing weren't able to have.

The question is whether you're getting your $13/month worth at any given time, I guess.

I did have fun in VW. I guess to compare (?), SE didn't release displacers until well after the content if I recall right. I can understand that, but making vw irrelevant at that time didn't help the cause either so they sort of had to do something.

Its not the fee, not sure whats buggin me. I just feel things have/are shifting at a rate where these quality of life stuff is blowing my mind and im stuck talking nonsense... we're like test cases of patience and entertainment to SE @.@ not sure if I like

[scaevola]

I sympathize, bruh, but you really shouldn't feel cheated that your play before SoA is materially obsolete, to a large degree. It might mildly sting to no longer have cause to wear the material reminders of the fun you had, but it'll only actually invalidate that fun if you let it! ^^b

[Sechs]

I'm happy and worried.
Happy because things are becoming more accessible (especially the Skirmish changes look promising, the KI rates were frustratingly low)
Worried because it's yet again another step in the direction of fucking up stuff for alliances or groups larger than 6-7.

Divine Might was one of the few content left for Alliances, the last alliance-focused content (granted that on normal or easier difficulties you could do it with just a bunch of competent people... but it was still kinda challenging for PUGs) and new two of those drops are getting added to those BCs, will drop on VE too probably (making you wonder why they even bothered adding 117 items to delve) and making it actually more annoying to get the drop you want because we know Divinator and Seraphicaller is all that will drop when you're desperately hunting for a Vanir Cotehardie or a Mes'yoshi Harness.

So yeah, mixed feelings. More positive than negative but somewhere inside of me I'm a bit sad.

[Tarage]

I don't see why people like 18 man content. Maybe it allows more variety with jobs, but trying to get 18 people on the same page has always been horrible. I've done enough DM runs where one RNG will screw up, pull hate, and wipe everyone else and ruin the run to know that it's a lot easier to get 6 competent people than 18. The days of huge link shell events are over, and I for one am glad. I think you have rose tinted glasses.

[Ramzii]

i still do alliance oriented content on a weekly basis and i definitely like it more than the 6 man bcnms.