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    Wonder if Erratic Flutter will be as OP as the mob version... probably not because Diffusion or some other stupid reason

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    If they'd also announce that they were making Temper party-target then they'd really have something. Heck, they could fix accession to work with all enhancing magic while they're at it.

    Flutter is almost certainly going to be Haste II for BLU.

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    Now with all those buff I really can't wait to see what kind of content they will throw at us; specially ally content

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccl View Post
    ally content
    I wouldn't hold your breath.

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    Inb4 erratic flutter is a 60s duration.

    Also description for new spells say "increases target's X" not "increases party member's X". Likely to be able to target anyone and not just party members. Nice buff for sch/rdm blm/rdm and geo/rdm

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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    I'm not really a fan of dynamic buff scaling for RDM as it essentially means breaking the Emp set when weighing the benefits of duration against potency. Granted, I do believe the job should just get a buff duration trait, or even new JP category now, to eliminate this kind of obnoxious choice. Either way, buff cycling was not something I enjoyed about the job and generally why I was lukewarm to the announcement of Haste II itself. Some way to reliably AoE or even sphere-ize would change my thoughts on the matter, but since that isn't the case, the enhanced durations are the next best thing to curb casting the same buffs over and over and over and over... with a few more over and overs if the mob dispels.
    tbh on anything that spams some form of dispelga (as in most shit), composure isnt the right thing to go ¬.¬, the recast is quiet substantional. there very potent alternatives with AF119 hands, emp feet +2, cape etc. that is a good alternativ set and lets you cap enhancing magic skill easy. granted its not 110% buff duration+, but more like 46% buff duration+ which I can live with

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    If they'd also announce that they were making Temper party-target then they'd really have something. Heck, they could fix accession to work with all enhancing magic while they're at it.

    Flutter is almost certainly going to be Haste II for BLU.
    you cant fix something that isnt broken, accession will work on all new spells that sch can use as sch/rdm, but it prolly wont work on the Tier 2 spells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    you cant fix something that isnt broken, accession will work on all new spells that sch can use as sch/rdm, but it prolly wont work on the Tier 2 spells.
    Just because it is "working as intended" doesn't mean it's not broken

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Just because it is "working as intended" doesn't mean it's not broken
    i would rather say flawed in design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticdan View Post
    I wouldn't hold your breath.
    ^ this.


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    Haste II on self means even lower recasts for casting on others with composure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophannus View Post
    Haste II on self means even lower recasts for casting on others with composure.
    it increases recast across the board on all spells. I myself have steped away from useing composure, usually there is anyway a move that dispels shit or whatever. +46% buff duration is allready very fine without the use of composure.

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    Composure is for rebuffing/prebuffs, or doing super easy shit that you can be lazy on. To be canceled after use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmagi View Post
    Composure is for rebuffing/prebuffs, or doing super easy shit that you can be lazy on. To be canceled after use.
    yeah usually use it pre NM pulls in delve/other stuff and then cancel it right away.

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    I thought I was going crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indalecia View Post
    I just hope the evasion down stacks with/doesn't overwrite Diamond Storm.
    Oh don't worry, it wont stack

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    you cant fix something that isnt broken, accession will work on all new spells that sch can use as sch/rdm, but it prolly wont work on the Tier 2 spells.
    Like accession haste?...

    I don't really have my hopes that sch will be able to accession them. If they can, good, but not waiting for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geno3302 View Post
    Oh don't worry, it wont stack

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    I just thought of how these spells will be another great boost to GEO/RDM thanks to our high enfeebling skills. Now us GEOs can keep Indi-Frailty on full time on high level mobs, use Indi-Focus on ourselves so we can lower physical and magical evasion with Frizzle and Distract, and either Haste or Flurry the DDs in the party. Once Frizzle lands, and provided the effect lasts, we can switch to the appropriate Indi spell for the DDs and let them go to town while we nuke away for more sexy damage.

    edit: This even balances out for RDMs when you think about it because their tier II effects will be stronger on both the mob and the DDs and this will probably counter the difference in DPS from the Geo's frailty.

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    lol, but hey at least we have BP adjustments to look forward to?

    Maybe SE will cave in and let us do 15-30k BPs on content that isn't 10-20 levels below current end game. Then they'll also realize that Noctoshield hasn't increased past 13, avatar heals are way too weak now, Fenrirs stat buffs are a joke, and Titans stoneskin is only worth 1 melee hit. They'll probably also realize that BLM are nuking for free non stop and we're stuck doing the equivalent of 1 nuke for nearly 200MP every 36sec.

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