Dev Tracker: Discussion

[Sechs]

Yes that's the concept.
Of course you cannot expect to have things being THAT slow or THAT grindy today, times have changed and things need to be faster/more accessible.
I'm all right with that. But I'm sure we can find a better compromise somewhere between these two extremes.
Delve was just a bit too much in this direction though, and not intended this way (they weren't expecting it), which gives us even more confirmation that it's been a "mistake" from a dev point of view.

[detlef]

People were okay with Sky's system because there were few endgame options and people didn't know any better. Put Sky-style trigger farming and drop rates in today's FFXI and people will revolt.

[dasva]

People were okay with Sky's system because there were few endgame options and people didn't know any better. Put Sky-style trigger farming and drop rates in today's FFXI and people will revolt.

Not to mention ridiculous sky style treks to pops then to the pop nms. Spend 5 hours get 1 person some tiger pants... maybe

[ronin sparthos]

Not to mention ridiculous sky style treks to pops then to the pop nms. Spend 5 hours get 1 person some tiger pants... maybe

Ok guys we're popping our Byakko.
Byakko pops, destroys a tank and proceeds to wallop the alliance.
aaaaaaaaaaaand thats -6hours of farming and the LS leaders are verbally abusing you on TS.
GG #ragequit

[Sechs]

People were okay with Sky's system because there were few endgame options and people didn't know any better. Put Sky-style trigger farming and drop rates in today's FFXI and people will revolt.

By the standards MMOs and this MMO in particular were going 8+ years ago... yeah, despite all whinings I may have done back then, I think it was ok.
It would be completely ridiculous today of course.

[ccl]

Yep now it would be impossible that's why something like making field NMs have 100% drop rate on a triggers kinda like ZNMs did would have done well in making at the very least delve 1 last much longer than it did for the group that farmed it back then.

[scaevola]

Weird question here - though I will say, I hate doing brd swaps with all my blackened heart and I do love playing brd - how do you deal with spell buffs that aren't party specific? I mean a WHM/RDM/SCH/etc can give anyone pro and shell.

No clue. This is pious musing.

And when it comes to dropping party, do the buffs go when someone dc's? Something which is very likely out of the group's control?

I'd assume so.

[Tarage]

So hey... how about them equipment sets...

[Warusha]

Time to make town gear macro and /lockstyle!

[Karbuncle]

Time to make town gear macro and /lockstyle!

I already have that :O!

Equip head/body/hands/leg/feet/lockstyle on.

[Warusha]

On one hand I hope that the new skirmish means I'll be able to get Mab 30, Macc 30 on one piece of hagondes. On the other hand I like the situationally useful gear. I'd settle for higher static augments than previously obtainable though!

[ccl]

On one hand I hope that the new skirmish means I'll be able to get Mab 30, Macc 30 on one piece of hagondes. On the other hand I like the situationally useful gear. I'd settle for higher static augments than previously obtainable though!

New Skirmish is just weapon, won't get anything new on Hagondes

[Kyte]

Alluvion Skirmish (7/24)

We do not anticipate accessories such as ear and neck equipment. However, we are thinking of adding armor such as head and body armor. Furthermore in the August update, you will be able to have 2 glyphs on your items, but we plan on expanding this and allowing for more enhancements in the future.

It won't necessarily be new augments on existing stuff, but it will likely have some kind of augmentable visible armor slot drops.

[ccl]

we are thinking of adding armor such as head and body armor.

I could be wrong but to me this mean: maybe in 2-3 months we'll add that.

[Kyte]

That's why I said "likely." I think that's a possible scenario as well- however, it also reads like an answer to a question that they were hammered with. I'm guessing people on the JP side were asking for or wondering whether or not accessories would be the next set of drops in this particular event. EDIT: The official translation does say the armor will be added in future updates

Either way, they will be "new skirmish drops".

[Damane]

delve is/was perfectly fine as it is. we still do it for the plasm and returning shell members.

[bungiefan]

He's right, there are no newcomers to this game, lets be honest here.

Reddit says otherwise. I've been recruiting on Ragnarok, and Asura has a recruiting shell too.

[NynJa]

Reddit says otherwise. I've been recruiting on Ragnarok, and Asura has a recruiting shell too.

Brand new players to the game, or server transfers? Because I find it incredibly hard to believe theres a constant influx of new players in a 11 year old game.

[ccl]

delve is/was perfectly fine as it is. we still do it for the plasm and returning shell members.

Being able to cap gear the day the content was released was really bad for delve II. Delve 1 reward were way to high for good group.

[dasva]

OH god that you might spawn right in front of enemies thing sounds scary especially with increased congestion... can just see people with bad connections getting beaten half to death before they can even see they are being attacked