Dev Tracker: Discussion

[NynJa]

Except NNI was one battlefield that can hold 3. How many new battlefields are there? 7 from each micro and macro? Big diff

[Byrthnoth]

Any old BCNM zone can only have three groups doing any of the fights there at the same time. Not, like, 3 groups can do one BCNM in the zone and 3 groups can do another. Only 3 groups can be fighting at once.

The alternative to this is what SE refers to as "Layer Zones," like Sandworm, NNI, Meebles, MMM, Fracture, Assault, Salvage, etc. There is no formal limitation on these zones (except for MMM's "hands of darkness"), but they use a different set of SE's servers and the servers used are likely shared between all worlds. Also, because this is obviously the superior instance type, SE has leaned towards using it essentially since its introduction and as a result has overburdened it. This is why you have Salvage / Delve lag and dropped packets.

If they were well funded and forward thinking, they would have dramatically upped the "Layer Zone" server capacity back when they started doing event re-boots and transitioned the appropriate ones onto that system. BCNMs are the system that needs it the most, but SE choked and didn't implement it.

[NynJa]

Any old BCNM zone can only have three groups doing any of the fights there at the same time. Not, like, 3 groups can do one BCNM in the zone and 3 groups can do another. Only 3 groups can be fighting at once.

I was alluding to BCNM's in multiple areas:
Horlais(2), Waugh(2), Balgas(2), Qu'Baia(3), Oracles, Sacrificial(2), Throne Room

Sure, they can only hold 3 groups at a time, but thats still 7 zones that can potentially hold 3 groups each, opposed to a new battlefield event like NNI which can only hold 3 groups and is a focal choke point, or a temporarily active battlefield like WotG ones, which still can only hold 3 groups at a time, but WILL be zerged due to the fact it wont be infinitely accessible.

[fantasticdan]

Can NNI really only hold three groups per server? Weird I never ran into a zone in error if that is the case.

[dasva]

Not to mention any idiot can do on average 1 NNI a day with 0 farming these even with exchange rates are still going to take a bit of time farming. Unless you were one of the (un)lucky ones to miss out on the 3 day campaign. Which at it's worst I didn't have to wait more than 10 minutes for. On top of that there a lot more new things introduced this update than the NNI update or for that matter all the back log of other stuff over the last several updates that has yet to be completely discovered, tested, etc

[NynJa]

Can NNI really only hold three groups per server? Weird I never ran into a zone in error if that is the case.

Did you do it on JP time weekends? Or when it first came out?

[fantasticdan]

A bit when a first came out, but did most of it in the month or so after they added the KI system. Was pretty popular on my server at the time, tons of statics/shout groups there all day. Just lucky than I guess?

[Cairthenn]

Can NNI really only hold three groups per server? Weird I never ran into a zone in error if that is the case.

The actual burning circle areas move you to a location in the zone you're already in. There are a fixed number of these. Nyzul Isle, which zones you elsewhere, uses their instance server.

[Kyreth]

it could have been if u could trade up your old seals. then again, theres a whole lot of zones to work with instead of just 1. they've been overcautious on certain things of late. i think people remember the NNI restrictions when it was initially introduced right

Consider what's happening with people lining up to spawn Delve NM's off shards for RME upgrade bits. If we figured out a BCNM that could be blazed through, I'd fully expect spam if they had enough seals.

[dasva]

Consider what's happening with people lining up to spawn Delve NM's off shards for RME upgrade bits. If we figured out a BCNM that could be blazed through, I'd fully expect spam if they had enough seals.

That would be the kicker though how many people still have that many seals? And also wont use them for old bcnms with this new extra stuff campaign?

[Spira]

i think i have a good 800 bs and ks seals each lol. not interested in the campaign stuff. life of a bst :D

[Kyreth]

That would be the kicker though how many people still have that many seals? And also wont use them for old bcnms with this new extra stuff campaign?

Unless there's something you needed in the old BCNMs, would you bother? Given, I've got a shit-ton of seals personally- but I too get a lot of soloing down.

[Manque]

Which of the listed BC's do you think are duo friendly? Mule and me.

Excited about the synthesis rate portion of things. Time to stockpile mats.
If anyone needs to know the times in JST:

5:00 to 7:00, 12:00 to 14:00, and 20:00 to 22:00

[NynJa]

All very duo friendly at ilvl 110+

[dasva]

Unless there's something you needed in the old BCNMs, would you bother? Given, I've got a shit-ton of seals personally- but I too get a lot of soloing down.

Not sure the point of your question as that would apply to any BC or event.... unless you mean the old drops which who gives a shit about them. As far as new drops I personally never got into legion so it's a nice way to get the few good abj from there. I was getting about 1 ever 3 fights so not bad. Possibly af3 for mules you don't feel like doing the long while getting other stuff. Maybe AV items for some people. Some HQ hexed gear that might be hard to find. alex hmps idk. And they all super easy. Alot of jobs could probably solo them. I mean if you don't need that stuff sure why bother but I'd imagine a few people would still want that stuff.

[Ligray]

Next jp broadcast on niconico, has a date and a time Nov. 27 at 22:30 JST (Nov, 26 5:30am PST), they're calling it ffxi lounge.

[Ligray]

A few Mocchi posts, looks like they're removing the rare attribute from limbus AF items and allowing it to stack to 12.

[Treize Kordero]

A few Mocchi posts, looks like they're removing the rare attribute from limbus AF items and allowing it to stack to 12.

That should make life easier for those who wanna upgrade AF to AF+1 then AF109

[Byrthnoth]

That should make life easier for those who wanna upgrade AF to AF+1 then AF109

I agree, and it was a predictable bottleneck from the moment that AF+2 were conceptualized. So why wasn't it in the November update? lolSE

Also, the campaign might be doubling the number of monsters you can kill with your NPC as well as the xp/kill. I leveled my NPC from 89 to 94 today in Gustav. It took 220 kills (1 charge for 1-200, 1 charge for 201-220, and then I disbanded him)

[Shenrien]

That would be amazing, I'm not exactly happy having to dbox the items to myself when I do repeated zones and if 2 of the same item happen to drop well, there goes that I guess.