Dev Tracker: Discussion

[Shenrien]

PSO2 in my eyes has handled F2P much better than any other title I've come across but to each their own.

[urat]

I think the LoL/Eve system is the best, where it's "f2p" in that you can obtain things you normally spend money in via a massive amount of in game currency.

IE if SE let us spend maybe like 15 million gil for another month's subscription or something like that. It'd require SE to seriously hammer down on all the people botting and cheating and abusing ways to make mountains of cash though, which is unlikely to happen. Hakuryus, selling wins for money, etc etc would all have to take massive hits before it would be viable to allow people to use gil in lieu of the cost of monthly subscription.

LoL has you spend money to unlock new characters, OR you can spend a mountain of in game currency instead. Buying alt skins for the characters can only be obtained via money though.

In other words, all game content is accessible, but you can spend real money to get it faster. Lots of cosmetic stuff is available for money though.

[ccl]

I think the LoL/Eve system is the best, where it's "f2p" in that you can obtain things you normally spend money in via a massive amount of in game currency.

IE if SE let us spend maybe like 15 million gil for another month's subscription or something like that. It'd require SE to seriously hammer down on all the people botting and cheating and abusing ways to make mountains of cash though, which is unlikely to happen. Hakuryus, selling wins for money, etc etc would all have to take massive hits before it would be viable to allow people to use gil in lieu of the cost of monthly subscription.

LoL has you spend money to unlock new characters, OR you can spend a mountain of in game currency instead. Buying alt skins for the characters can only be obtained via money though.

In other words, all game content is accessible, but you can spend real money to get it faster. Lots of cosmetic stuff is available for money though.

Hakuryu already gone as a gil way.

[dasva]

Hakuryu never was good gil per hour to begin with. Almost all day fishing to earn a salvage runs worth of gil lol. It was just popular because it was easier to bot than most farming and was all npc

[Bukadan]

farming salvage/dynamis isnt THAT much harder than fish botting in terms of effort, lol. selling wins to people who are willing to pay is far and away more respectable than either of those. youre generating gil through your abilities and skill. to say that taking the amount of gil you make into your own hands and being an entrepreneur of sorts is less respectable or less legitimate is tantamount to butthurt blaming.

[Fwahm]

Good thing no one said that.

[Bukadan]

It was just popular because it was easier to bot than most farming and was all npc

it was though

[dasva]

it was though

Not really sure what you are trying to say... you sound like you are disagreeing but aren't actually

[Priran]

the mog bonanza shows pretty strongly how nobody at SE can realistically appraise what items are worth. besides the whole hardly-worth-the-gil-and-inventory thing, the rank placements are a joke

[Shenrien]

They have been for some time now, nothing new about the bonanza. Kinda shocked Dring hasn't been bumped down to like a R3 or something.

[Damane]

They have been for some time now, nothing new about the bonanza. Kinda shocked Dring hasn't been bumped down to like a R3 or something.

friend is around 0/100 dring on KB i am sure he isnt the only person

[Tarage]

* Although Excenmille and Young Excenmille differ in both appearance and actions, only one of them may be summoned at a time to prevent any potential time paradoxes.

Am I the only one amused that SE went out of their way to code up a restriction on two very specific trusts specifically to prevent a TIME PARADOX?

It's not like summoning the young him in present times is going to somehow NOT break the universe...

[Kincard]

haven't you ever learned time paradoxes 101
the specfic act of meeting yourself can lead to a paradox that destroys the universe

[Hitou]

haven't you ever learned time paradoxes 101
the specfic act of meeting yourself can lead to a paradox that destroys the universe

That's actually funny because...

Spoiler: show

They totally meet each other in the present at the end of past sandy's story arch. Even fight the last boss together. Excenmille's just so dumb he doesn't recognize himself.

Anyway, Rainemard eff yeah! Hope he has Haste II. Klara might be interesting since she was annoying to fight. Romaa will probably end up being mostly useless though.

[Damane]

haven't you ever learned time paradoxes 101
the specfic act of meeting yourself can lead to a paradox that destroys the universe

cant destroy a universe that is made out of a goddess fake dream!?

[Zieara]

rift has the best F2P model I've ever seen executed

I just wanted to echo this. I've been playing Rift on and off for a while since it went F2P. If you want to see F2P done right, look no further than Rift.

[Ophannus]

Who cares if the alter egos meet? They're just magical manifestations.

[Damane]

Who cares if the alter egos meet? They're just magical manifestations.

magic comes allways with a price!

[Toth]

LOL well said!

[pancakesandsex]

Not asking for F2P, in fact against the idea, simply saying its not as bad as people make it seem, at least not when done right.

You should take a nice long look at SE's other f2p offerings to crush any optimism you might have about this idea.