Dev Tracker: Discussion

[Warusha]

I'm not sure why you're acting so offensive towards my idea of using the moonshade for instacast. The only thing I use tp for is Myrkr and Vidohunir. While the extra ~100 mp is nice for Myrkr, I think you're too quickly dismissing the fact that jobs with access to capped fastcast of pertinent spell types might benefit from more instacast. SCH has access to 17% instacast with earring for instance. You don't need fastcast for spells like stun where the cast time is low but the recast is high (~9 seconds). On BLM I am able to chain multiple aja spells together, which with cumulative bonus, adds up quickly. On WHM you swap weapons so often you'll hardly ever have enough tp to justify a tp bonus earring, and I can't think of the last time I didn't have at least 27 mp/tic refresh. Why wouldn't I want that instacast earring for arise, curagas, etc?

Not everyone plays melee jobs.

[Ophannus]

Wait if you use Impatiens on BRD you can't use instrument... XD

[Warusha]

Wait if you use Impatiens on BRD you can't use instrument... XD

You can have impatiens in your precast set, and instrument in midcast. Instacasting with gearswap allows proper midcast gear to equip. Always.

[dasva]

Regardless what are you going to do if you don't do 5/5 nt? Get a gimp song with only 1 merit that you probably wouldn't use even if you had it 5/5?

[Warusha]

I mean the songs that could be learned are -10 or +10 enmity, without ghorn. The effect is natively stronger than SCH spells, and they stack with PLD/RUN/SCH spells as well. The cost to change songs is 3 merits. You could reasonably switch songs between events if need be. I know not every group has perma REM bard, but if that's their main job and they care to out perform other bards, I don't think it's unreasonable to consider the benefits.

[Byrthnoth]

Well, with AF3+2 enhancement the Dirge is at least -12 Enmity at 1/5 and -32 Enmity at 5/5.

Foe Sirvente reduces enmity loss when taking damage and gives at least -20% Enmity loss at 5/5 (unclear what the base potency is). It gives at least -30% Enmity loss with AF3+2 enhancement.


The effects of G-horn on these spells has not been tested. Even if G-horn is only -5 Enmity/-5% Enmity loss, that's still -37 Enmity and at least >35% Enmity loss reduction at 5/5. I don't know exactly what it would do for you in the long run, but Sirvente would be a big step towards totally negating PLD CE loss (combine it with Burtgang, AF3 neck, AF3+2 legs - soon upgraded, and as much Enmity as you can squeeze together in your tanking build).

[dasva]

Of course neither of those really address the enmity issues for tanks. Though it might help some... but you gotta figure you are also using up a song slot so you gotta wonder at least on pld if using more dt in those slots and using mine to reduce the dmg.

Really wish SE would finish it's damn investigation so I could get my ghorn back to test

[Ophannus]

You can have impatiens in your precast set, and instrument in midcast. Instacasting with gearswap allows proper midcast gear to equip. Always.

But I though the deal with instacast is it instantaneously casts the spell, like a JA, so there's no time for midcast to even trigger, right? If it makes spells cast instantly, at what point would it switch between pieces of gear? is there like a 0.0001 second where the game considers pre/mid cast during quick magic and does this mean you could technically pre and mid cast gear for JAs too?

[Sechs]

Ophannus I don't even... -____-
Do you even use Gearswap? You can precast/midcast stuff on Gearswap EVEN if instacast procs, it's been said already several times over the last few pages.

[dasva]

But I though the deal with instacast is it instantaneously casts the spell, like a JA, so there's no time for midcast to even trigger, right? If it makes spells cast instantly, at what point would it switch between pieces of gear? is there like a 0.0001 second where the game considers pre/mid cast during quick magic and does this mean you could technically pre and mid cast gear for JAs too?

Insta cast isn't really instant just really close to the point you need something like gear swap to do the switch

[Ophannus]

Do you even use Gearswap? You can precast/midcast stuff on Gearswap EVEN if instacast procs, it's been said already several times over the last few pages.

I use GS i just assumed instacast was insta and it made the spell cast as if it were a JA. I didn't read the past few pages because who has time to read every page every day when this thread moves so fast? Also I thought it was a typo or something when someone mentioned Impatiens on BRD because I thought insta cast was insta and impatients takes up the same slot as instrument, geez
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[Foldypaws]

Could be potentially good. 3% of max hp per upgrade. A JA that heals 90% of your hp every 5min isnt so overpowrred considering restoring breath heals like 2k every 60sec.

Are those hypothetical numbers (for Mug), or is there a dev post hiding somewhere I haven't seen?

[Karbuncle]

Hypothetical.

No info on it yet.

[Byrthnoth]

3% would be a lot. I bet they repurpose the bash code.

[Ophannus]

Not sure if sarcastic again, but 3% per merit, would heal the thf by 90% of their max hp, every 5 minutes compare that to restoring breath which heals 100-120% of a drg's hp every min, 200%+ with deep breathing. Would be an ohshit tool if anything. Would rather it steal a temp item which could make things interesting like stealing a fanatic's powder off a delve nm, would usually be a Lucid Potion III or a Vicar's drink though.

[Sechs]

Looks like we gonna have to wait a long time (if ever...) before they release new alliance content.
There! Happy Draylo? Yai! Go us! 6men until the end of time!

Next step is gonna be 1 man. Fuck having to find 5 other pt members. Why bother when you can summon 5 trusts? Yai!

[dasva]

Not sure if sarcastic again, but 3% per merit, would heal the thf by 90% of their max hp, every 5 minutes compare that to restoring breath which heals 100-120% of a drg's hp every min, 200%+ with deep breathing. Would be an ohshit tool if anything. Would rather it steal a temp item which could make things interesting like stealing a fanatic's powder off a delve nm, would usually be a Lucid Potion III or a Vicar's drink though.

Yeah but it takes hp from the mob!!! And as silly as it sounds describing a 2kish hp drain every 5 minutes as overpower remember SE justified raising mugs timer to 15 min original with some excuse about the huge amounts of gil that supposedly could be made lol and is just now changing it back

[dasva]

Looks like we gonna have to wait a long time (if ever...) before they release new alliance content.
There! Happy Draylo? Yai! Go us! 6men until the end of time!

Next step is gonna be 1 man. Fuck having to find 5 other pt members. Why bother when you can summon 5 trusts? Yai!

Wait 5 trusts?

[Draylo]

Sarcasm, they made this post in response to a thread I made:

Greetings,

Currently the development team is prioritizing content tailored towards 6-person parties so that a greater number of people are able to challenge it. This doesn’t mean that we will not be implementing alliance-based content later down the line, but at the moment there are no plans.

So maybe something some day. After that news, only really care about monstrosity crap now. Hope they implement party exping and that pvp system.

[Prothescar]

ew, those BLU JPs. guess the CA one isn't that bad