Dev Tracker: Discussion

[Kincard]

Re: NNI congestion, JPs liked to call it "shuushuu"; it's the sound effect the game makes when you press confirm talking to an NPC, the NNI gate would make the sound effect but it wouldn't detarget+give you the prompt if the area was congested so you could press X over and over and get the sound effect continuously. I wasn't sure if this was due to the instance areas being full or if it was just the game screwing up because of too many people at the gate, but I'm guessing the former. In other cases you might get the prompt, press OK but then freeze up for like a minute before it didn't allow you in though.

When MMM came around at least they added the hands of darkness message, but I never quite got why they put that message instead of just "the server is full asshole".

[Tarage]

JPs liked to call it "shuushuu"

Shushu you say?

Spoiler: show

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...9/9f/Rushu.png

I had to.

[dasva]

I agree, and it was a predictable bottleneck from the moment that AF+2 were conceptualized. So why wasn't it in the November update? lolSE

If we've learned nothing since the whole ilvl concept started it's that SE has a complete inability to predict the most predictable of things and will constantly fix problems that should have never existed in the first place after players complain about them enough

[JSHidaka]

That should make life easier for those who wanna upgrade AF to AF+1 then AF109

..and probably or for sure, when they let ppl upgrade AF to ilvl119... they will let old af(base af) to be upgraded, skipping AF+1, and ilvl109(af+2?)

[Treize Kordero]

..and probably or for sure, when they let ppl upgrade AF to ilvl119... they will let old af(base af) to be upgraded, skipping AF+1, and ilvl109(af+2?)

I have no doubt they'll have a system to go from AF straight to AF119 but if it means getting double the amount of pages to go from AF to AF119.. it might not be a viable option for some players.

I'm thinking it might be faster to go AF --> Limbus items --> AF+1 --> 5 pages from SKC --> AF109 --> # new pages from whatever event --> AF119 since we can do limbus and SKCNMs together.

[dasva]

Lol dev tracker is it just me or does it sound like it's say we acknowledge that rdm sp2 is only really useful for a short fight

[NynJa]

In case you are curious about the current content level, when selecting “normal” difficulty, microcosmic orbs are content level 107 and macrocosmic orbs are content level 109.

But dont tell us content level difficulty for difficult and very difficult settings, THANKS OBAMA.

[Ophannus]

The actual burning circle areas move you to a location in the zone you're already in. There are a fixed number of these. Nyzul Isle, which zones you elsewhere, uses their instance server.

To further expound upon this, you could theoretically clipper you way into another person's BCNM and stand there and watch the fight(don't think you can participate because you wouldn't have the BCNM status icon). I've heard the same holds true for Einherjar. You can clip past the entrance gate and then clip through all the little chambers into Odin's chamber and watch another group fight him.

[Helldemon]

Ya, I believe people had issues at one point with RMT clippering/pos hacking into other peoples BCNM's underneath the center of the BC and opening peoples chest after they won, didn't they?

[arus2001]

Heard of such. Never saw it personally.

[NynJa]

Depending on your performance, you can earn points and increase your drop percentages for each respective slot. (The way drop percentages increase is different for each slot.)

aka cap bayld and afk
aka dont bother showing up late
aka fight useless shit to cap your bayld faster instead of fighting NM


its a stupid process since you get rewarded less for fighting the main boss since they take reduced damage, so your offensive contributions are much lower as opposed to fighting adds, they deal more damage/are very likely to oneshot you, so you're likely to sit on the sidelines doing nothing as opposed to fighting adds.

[fantasticdan]

aka cap bayld and afk
aka dont bother showing up late
aka fight useless shit to cap your bayld faster instead of fighting NM


its a stupid process since you get rewarded less for fighting the main boss since they take reduced damage, so your offensive contributions are much lower as opposed to fighting adds, they deal more damage/are very likely to oneshot you, so you're likely to sit on the sidelines doing nothing as opposed to fighting adds.

That's what people on my server have already been doing for the whole expansion.

[Kyreth]

aka cap bayld and afk
aka dont bother showing up late
aka fight useless shit to cap your bayld faster instead of fighting NM


its a stupid process since you get rewarded less for fighting the main boss since they take reduced damage, so your offensive contributions are much lower as opposed to fighting adds, they deal more damage/are very likely to oneshot you, so you're likely to sit on the sidelines doing nothing as opposed to fighting adds.

I've been going in on THF. Generally it's:

1) Build TP on random mobs.
2) SATA-Feint NM and WS, then GTFO.
3) Recover from any incidental damage, repeat.

Got boots in M. Ravine and the club in Yorica doing Wildkeeper runs like that. It's always seemed counterproductive to just pick on random mobs other than getting them off me before I make a pass at the NM. /DNC to throw kindness at people getting beaten up by guardians/get rid of annoying status too. Watching people derp by charging the NM and sitting there autoattacking (then getting vaped by a TP move) always makes me just sigh.

[NynJa]

That's what people on my server have already been doing for the whole expansion.

I know, I'll admit I do it too (try to hold 2-3 mobs on pld before the mooches pull shit off my pld* and cure with my alts), but it doesnt change the fact that its fucking stupid. You shouldnt get more credit for not being productive. Even on col/lair reives, since the main target takes less damage (and doesnt fight back), you get more for being useless to the objective. I'd like if SE changed it to "the following actions get a credit multiplier: damage taken to reive boss, damage taken from reive boss, debuffs inflicted on reive boss". Curing may be another issue, but it could be based on enmity, "healing and enhancing credit multiplier based on target enmity to reive boss". Just something that encourages people to NOT hide in a corner capping bayld or killing mobs that are 100 yalms away from the boss.

*any mob thats attacking my pld, people beeline for it. If its attacking one of my mages, people dont seem to give a fuck.

2) SATA-Feint NM and WS, then GTFO.

I went to Hur on thf once, and I was dropping 4.5k SA rudras with a very incomplete set.

[Darkmagi]

Seems like bullshit as I've shown up to plenty of things at 10-2% and still got respectable drops. Regardless, anyone can get enough points by either fighting adds, or killing yourself over and over with twilight gear.

[noodles355]

How do you know when you've capped bayld? Do you just start getting ### exp/0 bayld?

[NynJa]

How do you know when you've capped bayld? Do you just start getting ### exp/0 bayld?

use reive plugin, once you hit 25000 exp, you're good, even if your bayld isnt capped, it'll get there.

[noodles355]

Hmmm, this might explain my shitty drops on Hurkan... was just spamming Earth Shot for like 200exp per eval >.> Maybe go Sch and nuke random mobs and cure bomb people. Cheers.

[Darkmagi]

There really needs to be a sort of eval boost if you're doing damage to the boss instead of the adds. It's really shitty as hell right now that I can get more exp killing myself than actually contributing to something like kumhau.

[NynJa]

Tanked Tchakka from 100 to 85%, in approx 10 min nyn got something like 1.5k bayld, my mules (mages doing buffs, cures and casting thunder) got 200 and 600. Someone pulled shark off me, I went to tank 5 adds, in the same 10 min, mules have about 4k now and nyn's up to 10k, not to mention this method is a LOT less hectic.

I dont know how SE can consider that "working as intended".