Dev Tracker: Discussion

**Hitou** · 2014-09-08 18:57

Originally Posted by Damane

None of them were wearing any kind of AF Empy or Relic armor during CS appropriate to their job. Marjami was a RUN wearing hagondes body, cirdas was wearing coalition gear with a sword and shield (banner of update) Hennetiel was wearing pup empy but had a lance. The only one resembling his job was Rala as a Geo with AF/Relic pieces. That artwork is nowhere close to what was shown in cutscenes during ergon weapon quests.

So? You said you never saw the artwork of it, and I showed it to you. Doesn't really matter what the npc's are wearing in actual cut scenes compared to artwork. That was the picture I'm assuming Orphannus was referencing. There's other pictures of the 12 but they're not as easy to tell what they are wearing.

**Hitou** · 2014-09-08 19:01

Originally Posted by Priran

yeah, the missions that came out after the quest, so I stick by it being horseshit

You mean the missions that came out barely a month later? I'm sorry the mystery wasn't solved the second you figure out what the cipher is. Are you trying to imply the name was random and then retcon'd for the missions? If so that's a scary level of distrust.

**Priran** · 2014-09-08 19:21

Originally Posted by Hitou

lol sry wuz it 2deep4u?

"let's make a quest based on solving a riddle where the answer is a word we made up and have never used, and the only way you could possibly solve it is to solve a cipher to get eight letters and then guess that these eight letters in fact need to be run through a second cipher and then brute force anagrams. also, there is a de facto 10 minute wait between guesses. also, answering this riddle will tell you nothing interesting, both at the time you solve it and in retrospective context, because the first time we ever use this word in a sentence it will be to say exactly what the riddle revealed."

award winning game design

**Hitou** · 2014-09-08 19:58

I missed the part where you have to do all that to complete the quest. It was just a little side thing for people to figure out that cared to. I agree the reward was meh and I was hoping for a little CS at least but whatever. It was completely optional and people figured out the password within a few days of it being announced.

**Aumaan_Kujata** · 2014-09-09 00:10

It was a teaser, almost an easter egg, sort of in the same category as leaking the early incomplete zone data before even announcing the expansion (assuming that was deliberate instead of accidental). They certainly didn't play it up, or even mention it as a quest in the patch notes or anything, it was just lying there in a corner of a zone for people to stumble over and get some mystery-solving entertainment out of. It helped that the other quest involved, that provided the initial letters, included one of the more hilariously screwed-up npcs in Adoulin.

Also, I suspect the "random anagram" part is not actually random, but achievable by sorting the given letters by the associated dates of the historical documents that the letters were attached to. That'd leave the ROT13 bit as the only thing approaching a leap of faith in uncovering the name, and that's not exactly a huge stretch to come up with once you're playing with cryptograms.

I thought the whole thing was pretty clever, and I hope they do stuff in a similar vein in the future. But I'm a lore hound that enjoys cryptograms, so varying mileage, etc.

**Hitou** · 2014-09-09 00:38

From the update notes.

The following monster abilities have been adjusted:
Abyssic Buster
The duration of the amnesia effect has been reduced.
Typhoean Rage
This ability no longer removes players’ equipment.
Keraunos Quill
This ability no longer causes encumbrance.
Raksha: Vengeance / Eradicator
The effect duration of the weakened state has been reduced.
Ballistic Kick
This ability no longer removes players’ equipment.The duration of the encumbrance effect has been reduced.
Besieger’s Bane
The duration of the terror effect has been reduced.
Enthrall
The duration of the charm effect has been reduced.
Hurricane Breath
Attack power has been reduced.

Freaking. Yes.

**Sechs** · 2014-09-09 01:08

About time...

They still have that annoying remove-equipment TP move from the Oozes tho? I don't see it in that list...
Those changes were probably mainly with WoE in mind (rightfully so, it already made lv95+ WoE annoying with ilevel gear, couldn't imagine doing ilevel WoE with those moves still...)

**Vathris** · 2014-09-09 01:13

Why would they put JSE capes info right next to new items storable by porter moogles but not put the capes in there!! Whyyyyyyyyyy

**Priran** · 2014-09-09 11:22

Originally Posted by Vathris

Why would they put JSE capes info right next to new items storable by porter moogles but not put the capes in there!! Whyyyyyyyyyy

Presumably because the Incursion version of capes are augmented non-statically so storing them would wipe the augment.

**Draylo** · 2014-09-10 23:37

Atomos doesn't look as cool as Odin or Alex lol

**Shenrien** · 2014-09-10 23:44

Isn't Atomos just a maw?

**Prothescar** · 2014-09-10 23:46

so it's just using a regular cavernous maw model and is doing the soul suction/stat buff ability it gets in the BC battle. why did it take them so long to release this?

**Karbuncle** · 2014-09-10 23:48

Originally Posted by Prothescar

so it's just using a regular cavernous maw model and is doing the soul suction/stat buff ability it gets in the BC battle. why did it take them so long to release this?

I'm not making excuses, but it could be the tie in with the end of WoTG took some time to get right... I imagine Atomos fight is part of the after-math of WoTG storyline, so all the storyline elements had to come into play (writing a satisfying ending, etc).

They also probably put it really really far back on the priority list.

**Prothescar** · 2014-09-10 23:50

range looks small on the soul infusion too, hopefully it's larger for the live version

**Karbuncle** · 2014-09-10 23:59

Originally Posted by Prothescar

range looks small on the soul infusion too, hopefully it's larger for the live version

Where are you people seeing this cause if its the video whats the timestamps :X

**Draylo** · 2014-09-10 23:59

Look under Dev tracker posts thread theres the exact time, I posted the digest video its around 1:12

?

**Shenrien** · 2014-09-11 00:00

So they took the Atomos we encountered in a BC, and made it a summon that only does one action under the effect of a buff. I don't care of it was being "held out because WoTG was such a great expansion it needed to be finished and then like a fine wine age because it was too soon for something this good" ... How long has WoTG been done for? 3 years now?

**Draylo** · 2014-09-11 00:01

Also as far as the range comment, the SMN is not in a PT with the other guy so it only hit him and his trust NPC. I think Atomos looks lame though :/, I expected him to look like that but they could have redone the visual effects of his move a bit.

**dasva** · 2014-09-11 00:09

Of course even though they summon all the new trusts they make sure to put the mithra girl on the other player so we can't see if/what geo buff it's giving. I do love how they kept zooming in on Cid and laughing

Anyone translate what the atomos did.

Also was Koru a backline rdm that not only gives rdm specific buffs but stays out of range while curing and buffing!?!

**Tarage** · 2014-09-11 02:04

SMN getting half finished pieces of shit? Shocking.

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