Dev Tracker: Discussion

[FaeQueenCory]

Another double CAP campaign right on the heels of the last one. I don't know why they won't just make the base rate double all the time like EXP is.

I know, right!? Jeeze... We had like... What? Two double salvage plan campaigns... Three maybe?
And those got ninja patched to be permanent with 0 fanfare. (There was literally just a single bullet in the patch notes... Buried under everything else...)

Boy did they troll us with the New Gifts announcement....Wow....

For real!!
Such BS... They could have at least revealed how it functions...
Which I feel like they kinda did......
Extrapolating from the fact that this "tier" of Gifts will include JA augments (looks like steps for DNC?) as well as spells... I suspect that this category of Gifts (if it even is a category... Which if so, my money is on Su2) will just put the spell into your spell list in the same manner that Merit Spells do...

I don't think SE is THAT stupid to waste resources with "Su2 spell scrolls"...
Cause...
That's just so many extra hoops to jump through... When it would just be easier to work them like Merit Spells.

[Sechs]

Did they mention new jas? I only remember them talking about "powering up" jas, which makes me think about existing ones

[dasva]

Boy did they troll us with the New Gifts announcement....Wow....

You mean how it basically told us nothing?

[Noonstar]

New Tier of gifts means you'll need another 100 JPs spent to get all the new gifts? that's how i understand it at least, disappointed that there are no details, like with initial announcement, but at least we're getting them
Hope there will be another +20% cap bonus from this tier, so if they keep adding bonuses and so on, it'll get easier and easier to farm JPs (thou you'll need progressively more ones the cap is raise from 10 to 20>> to 30)
Also hoping that instead of Su2 in the middle of this tier there will be New BLM spells and w/e adjustments to ja for other jobs~..... Maybe eventually SE will release Massacre Elegy for BRD that they promised like 4 years ago, lolol (one can only dream^^)

[Ophannus]

They did actually say months ago that they would release new JAs and spells through gifts/JP.

That scholar is casting something on himself. It's not an elemental spell, it's white magic judging by his gesture. If i had to venture a guess, perhaps it's tier 2 storm spells(double weather?).

[Fwahm]

Inb4 SE uses gifts to make super crappy JAs into decent/good ones.

120 RDM job points: Stymie now guarantees zero resist, triples duration, and triples potency (stacks multiplicatively with Saboteur).

[dasva]

Inb4 SE uses gifts to make super crappy JAs into decent/good ones.

120 RDM job points: Stymie now guarantees zero resist, triples duration, and triples potency (stacks multiplicatively with Saboteur).

But still only half potency/duration increase on ITGs .

But really I wouldn't put that general idea past them. I mean mug is pretty much completely useless but with jp it gets at least useable... that said I doubt there would a huge change from a single gift similar to how for the most part a single jp spent in category isn't huge. But maybe eventually add up like how fencer is starting to become kinda crazy on war and if they added some more you might see some sword and shield wars lol

[Kyte]

That scholar is casting something on himself. It's not an elemental spell, it's white magic judging by his gesture. If i had to venture a guess, perhaps it's tier 2 storm spells(double weather?).

That would be my guess- the spell in the picture looks like a T2 Hailstorm

But maybe eventually add up like how fencer is starting to become kinda crazy on war and if they added some more you might see some sword and shield wars lol

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it were already competitive (relative to other options on WAR anyways) when there's a DNC present.

[Toth]

Yeah...They could have just said what the gifts were or how many JPs we needed. But noooooooooo.

[scaevola]

Another double CAP campaign right on the heels of the last one. I don't know why they won't just make the base rate double all the time like EXP is.

Part of me wants to think they're just going to double CAP in the February update and they're trying to get as much of a head start as possible so that people can get a lead on the new categories/gifts.

So i would hypothesis that given they're only releasing 2 JP categories, they'll release 3-4 gifts, spread out anywhere between 95 and 125JP. So maybe 100, 110, 115, 120, 125. Maybe the Elemental spells will be at the 110 and 125 marker for BLM/SCH/RDM/GEO. Probably BLM gets the AoE and the others get the single target version? Just conjecture. But yeah if they gave us 12 gifts for 6 JP categories, doubt they'll give 12 more for adding only 2 categories. What do you guys think?

I think you're mostly right, but remember the gifts we have now are pretty front-loaded; there's plenty of space in the 55-95 range to throw in some more.

[Trumpy]

OMG Toth, this is exactly what i was thinking. SE irks me soo hard when they tell us 3 times they are adding things like this but never give any kind of specifics... even with the "hey these might change later guys just so you know" warnings. Irks me alot when the title of the headline on the front page is: New gifts to be added in the next update. Then you click it to see what and all they tell you is the same sentence reworded. like why bother to make a link if all the information is on the front page.

[FaeQueenCory]

I think the new spells/JT/JAs will be at 100... Cause Su1 is 50...
And given how they're also adding two new categories for each job...
It could even go up to 195 or higher. (My bet is on 145... Cause it would make sense to do a fancy thing every 50 spent.)

[geno3302]

If it's a leveling system then, based on the gradually increasing gap between gifts, it would actually make sense to continue making the gap between the gifts larger over time.

[Sechs]

Yai! Even more detailed information!
These last few weeks (could we say months?) have been so incredibly full of interesting information (I could remove the adjective and the sentence would still be true lol)

[Lyramion]

Hey at least it made the cut

[Sechs]

Bet we're all so throbbing with anticipation concerning the next tier of beloved randomly augmented gear, or a third fantastic randomly augmented slot for weapons, ruled by a new type of randomly dropping stones.
O joy.


Well, at least we should be getting some new cool models, useful if anything for /lockstyle lol
Who am I lying to though?
Realistically we might even get some interesting remotely possible augments on those items, which only makes things worse, given how incredibly frustrating and unrewarding the whole process of random augmentations is.

[Damane]

Bet we're all so throbbing with anticipation concerning the next tier of beloved randomly augmented gear, or a third fantastic randomly augmented slot for weapons, ruled by a new type of randomly dropping stones.
O joy.


Well, at least we should be getting some new cool models, useful if anything for /lockstyle lol
Who am I lying to though?
Realistically we might even get some interesting remotely possible augments on those items, which only makes things worse, given how incredibly frustrating and unrewarding the whole process of random augmentations is.

the hagondes set with MAB and Pet:Mab augments is long overdue to die... that red (albeit most pieces have been replaced by other means)

[Maurauc]

Something I certainly missed on Friday, SE seems to be teasing that the left spell of the Gifts (the one the BLM is casting that is a giant black sphere) is something special, according to their twitter.

New Gifts on the way in the #FFXI Feb. update! I wonder what that spell on the left is… http://sqex.to/XaS
http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...3518/13518.jpg

Ultima?

[Kainstryder]

Looks like Fire VI, as the JP magazine specifically stated BLMs are getting the T6 nukes. SCH looks to be getting weather 2, and I can only assume DNC is getting Step 2.

[Lyramion]

assume DNC is getting Step 2.

Dont think so, it might rather be an increase in step potency with each hit. Storm II spells giving double weather would be pretty sick! I'd still rather also get T6 nukes.