Dev Tracker: Discussion

[Lyramion]

Ya Byrth - it has come to the point where the FUCKING PICTURES on the POL website give us MORE information than the ACTUAL text ! The Japanese people are getting 1liners, too.


Picture for "Additional JP categories"

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...3571/13571.jpg

Bind II ? I am not familiar with THF - what ability is that?



Picture for new Alluvion Skirmishes

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...3527/13527.jpg



There is a fucking TENT in the picture tho.... FUCK THE TENT PLEASE DIE IN A FIRE

[Hitou]

THF pic looks like steal but there already is one for that so maybe despoil. And RDM looks like bind like you said.

[Yeager]

That definitely looks like Bind the RDM is casting. Perhaps Bind II is one of the new spells? And the THF there, I don't recognize that animation. It KINDA looks like the Animation from Steal, but not quite. But we already have Steal, Mug, and Aura Steal via Merit Points. No clue what that could be. "Pilfer"?

As for the Yorcia Alluvion Skirmish, to me it looks like the players are attacking the tent, which looks to be defended by an NM or you fight NMs on the way to the tent? Also, are you aided by that grown up Wyvern there? Like, is it an extra character or something? And also in the pic on the right, in between the WHM (who looks like he/she is using Banish or Holy on the tent) and the Wyvern, is that a DRG? Call me crazy, but will DRGs finally be able to upgrade their baby Wyverns to adult Wyverns as one of their "Gifts?"

[Ophannus]

Bind II seems kinda superfluous since we have sleeps, grav II, break etc. might be good as a backup though if it has sufficient duration and accuracy and doesn't break as easily. I was under the impression from the notes that new magic was "elemental magic" only. Yet theyre showing pics of new enfeebling and new enhancing magic.

As for the yorcia wyvern thing. The whm is clapping in the picture, seemingly as if she's cheering on the wyvern and the dragoon. They could be npcs to keep alive. We know dragoons exist in adoulin as "drakestamers" as mentioned by Achetelle in wotg, and when i mention to SE on official forums that since SoA ended we've not seen a single drakestamer or wyvern, they kinda balked and said they would add more references/quests exploring the presence of drg in adoulin, as they had been lreviously mentioned before however have not appeared at all(i bet the devs forgot their own lore teaser hooks from previous expansions). That being said, it could be a peacekeeper coalition "drakestamer" with their pet wyvern that you need to keep alive or something along with the tent, or the tent needs to live but you get npc helpers from noetics. Honestly alluvions have had similar objectives as nq skirmish but twists added. Rala and cirdas had a mix of defeat mobs/defeat NM, so it makes sense alluvion yorcia would reintroduce protecting the damned tent against waves again.

Also seems like someone casted Haste on the tent O_o

Finally, dragoon wyverns are baby wyrms i think despite what the story seems to say. Wyverns have 4 limbs like birds, 2 hind legs and 2 wings. Wyrms have 6 limbs, 2 hind legs, 2 forelegs, and 2 wings. Drg's wyverns have 6 limbs. Would be awkward if our wyverns grew to be the Guivre model of Wyvern because, what, do their forelimbs just fall off? Also it would be a bitch to recode all the wyvern emotes and animations that wyverns use, and i'm positive most JP would cry that they miss their cute baby dragon model, so it could never be a forced cosmetic change, cuz there's people who would complain that the old model/animations were better.

[Sechs]

Bind II is so gonna make RDM wanted everywhere again, inorite.

If Alluvion Yorcia turns out to be another "defend the tent" thing I hope this time they'll do it right and make the time between waves dynamic according to how good/fast you kill the previous wave.
What really made the original bad was the boring static wait times between waves. There was no difference wether your group sucked or was awesome, you still had to wait that fixed amount of time.
It wasn't the case with the previous tier, where a good group would clear better and faster than a bad one.

If they manage to fix this issue, the concept of defending a tent against waves of monsters is actually quite fun and interesting, so I'm not against it at all.

[Lyramion]

Bind II seems kinda superfluous since we have sleeps, grav II, break etc. might be good as a backup though if it has sufficient duration and accuracy and doesn't break as easily. I was under the impression from the notes that new magic was "elemental magic" only. Yet theyre showing pics of new enfeebling and new enhancing magic.

Bind had some niche uses when Incursion was new and people didnt rely on GEO army yet. It landed pretty easy on Gramk when Sleep was much harder to land after climbing a bit.

As far as I can tell the Elemental magic thing was only aimed at BLM. While every other job will get some other Spell or a JA enhancement.

[Ophannus]

JA enhancement should be a large upgrade to an existing ability to make up for not getting a new "spell" or JA. Like allowing Sneak Attack to ignore defense, or double soul eater potency, or unerring Jump accuracy.

[Hitou]

I think you guys are mixing up Job Points with Gifts. The "teaser," and I use that word lightly, is talking about the new Job Point categories they're going to add. Probably 2 per job. New spells etc are going to come from Gifts.

[Damane]

JA enhancement should be a large upgrade to an existing ability to make up for not getting a new "spell" or JA. Like allowing Sneak Attack to ignore defense, or double soul eater potency, or unerring Jump accuracy.

yeah lets just break the game even more so we can go back to bitching how easy everything is and how there is no challenging content (and no grinding doesnt fall into that category unless you want to challenge your own masochistic side of your personality)

[Sechs]

They're kinda one and the same though Hitou. You get Gifts according to how many job points you spend.
It wouldn't be so surprising if those screenshots were about new JAs/Spells we get through gifts thanks to the amount of job points spent, would it?

[Hitou]

Considering there's no information I'd say anything is possible.

[Kainstryder]

It's despoil.

[Ophannus]

Isn't despoil's animation the same as steal? Rainbow light flakes, etc.

Though i wouldn't be surprised if THF just get a gift that increases the duration of the debuff that despoil inflicts. Idk why SE makes abilities like steal mug and despoil useless on anything except common mobs. Let it work on NMs but instead of treasure, let it give THF a random temp item from a set pool of like 15 possible temp items, i.e Dusty Wing, Champion's Tonic, etc(obv no Fanatics/Fools/Brews/Megalixirs). It's stupid that 3 of THF's abilities are useless endgame. Wish they would just give Aura Steal to THF naturally and the merits just enhance the length of duration of the effect, and give every new NM a mug value. Idk why they stopped giving new NMs gil to be mugged.

[dasva]

Ugh hope rdm doesn't get Bind duration +1 second.

Gift spell bind II. So you can bind while you bind to be bound while your bound

[Toth]

I've never been a complainer when it comes to SE's teasers but this month has been dreadful. What is going on with them...

[Foldypaws]

JA enhancement should be a large upgrade to an existing ability to make up for not getting a new "spell" or JA. Like allowing Sneak Attack to ignore defense, or double soul eater potency, or unerring Jump accuracy.

I'm sure whatever ja enhancements they get will more than make up for not getting Bind 2

[errantfish]

Given the pattern of rdm job point categories so far, one of the ones from this update should be a saboteur enhancement. That's probably just bind being cast with jp enhanced sabo. Alternately, the second jp category this update for rdm might be something like enfeebling magic duration or potency.

The graphic effect doesn't look any different from regular bind as far as I can tell, and this is a jp category post not a gift post, so not expecting bind ii.

But yeah, these vague posts are awful.

[NynJa]

I've never been a complainer when it comes to SE's teasers but this month has been dreadful. What is going on with them...

Well lets see
With the reports of them blindly banning anyone whos been GMed for "suspected botting", and garbage updates, youd think theyre trying to drive people away to shut the game down.

[dasva]

Given the pattern of rdm job point categories so far, one of the ones from this update should be a saboteur enhancement. That's probably just bind being cast with jp enhanced sabo.

You know what would be funny if it was enhance sabo but the bind was just a red herring and it's something like make it so sabo actually works with dia/bio lol. Or potency like you mentioned

[Capuchin]

I've never been a complainer when it comes to SE's teasers but this month has been dreadful. What is going on with them...

While it's easy to take the negative approach and just say are just not caring and giving lackluster effort (which may well be true!)...

The optimistic possibility is that maybe the lazy update notes (and weak updates) are because they're quietly working on something significant behind the scenes like some kind of expansion/mini-expansion and putting their effort into that. If they only have limited resources, I guess I'd prefer them to be focusing more on major content at the expense of good update preview notes! They were pretty quiet in the pre-Abyssea and pre-Adoulin phases too, pushing out low effort content to keep things staggering along until a fairly major new release.

Of course, maybe that's not true at all and they're just sucking, but it's at least a plausible explanation.