Dev Tracker: Discussion

[ColenzoRidesAgain]

nah draylo, the content in the zones in bad enough, atmas brews ect, but the quality of the players you meet in certain settings (pugs ect) is definitely questionable and abyssea could (i think reasonably too) be seen as a likely reason.

edit: i know youve made shout groups, or joined the kind of shout groups where you could see what im talking about draylo lol. i mean you wont find me shouting. lol

Oh give me a fucking break. The average ffxi player was never that impressive at all even before abyssea.

[Tarage]

Shut. Up.

[Draylo]

It begins... where are those patch notes lol

[urat]

I agree, if they end up being very powerful then Dasva is absolutely right. (supposing there is no way to extend that time limit etc).
Personally I hope they end up being very small/negligible bonuses, maybe one at a time etc.
Abyssea Atma system was too powerful but sustainable during Visions. Things kinda started to break down once Scars came out. I'll admit it was fun, but it wasn't healthy for the game and its system, imho.

So yeah, really really really hope it won't be the same thing as Atmas.

I think SE learned from their mistake already. Atmacites in voidwatch were same/identical concept, but significantly weaker and cost WAY more to make usable. I doubt we'll see a repeat of that.

I do hope we get something like the abyssites though, those were awesome to collect and even obtaining all of them didnt directly make you stronger. Progressive "collect all the stuff" content is one of my favorites, as long as it isnt RNG intensive. Most abyssites were 100% drop rates so collecting them all was just a matter of time investment, not luckiness.

If we get another abyssite system, popped NMs so we dont have to deal with countercampers, and maybe some kind of atma like system again where we can customize builds, I think that will have a fair bit of longevity content wise.

Its countercamping and RNG bullshit that makes content stale fast. Wonder if SE will roll with another proc system. We'll find out soon!

[dasva]

I generally learned more from watching decent players play their jobs endgame (yay for being rdm main first so I could and was supposed to watch everything) than the average player learned leveling up. It's all based on the people.

Anyways as far as the atmas go I expect them to start out probably more like at atmacite strength (discounting the whole save tp debacle) then by the end (I believe it said you earn some from mission progress) they basically strong atma level to transition into game stagnation

[Bukadan]

I generally learned more from watching decent players play their jobs endgame (yay for being rdm main first so I could and was supposed to watch everything) than the average player learned leveling up. It's all based on the people.

leveling nin and drk through labyrinth of onzozo was a great example of that for me, there was a particular whm i partied with who sold me on "melee should never have to ask for buffs or status cures, seeing blaster in the log means the same thing against toramas as 'para'". lead me to level mage jobs which are now what i really prefer lol

[Tarage]

In other news my download speed has gone to shit. I think everyone's hammering the server. Someone who just started said 7 hours ETA.

[brozy]

Just started aswell and currently sitting at a wait of 3 hours atm =/

[BerenTebogo]

So...no new JP for all jobs?

[Kyte]

Job points have undergone the following additions and adjustments.
New job point categories have been added.
New gifts have been added

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[Sephiran]

Oh SE...looking at all that new gear that I must get to show up as many people as I can...and I still need that Vagary body piece! What have you done to me, SE? Why? WHY?!!

[Julian]

Stop with the abyssea bitching and wall of texts, don't make me clean this thread up when I get home.

[Kyreth]

Finally finished updating as of 10AM EST.

And now I have to go work. Blargh!

[Julian]

Time to sell the plates I've been hoarding? Lol

[Seha]

Voidwatch gifts from RoV...mm I wonder what that's gonna be.

[Damane]

Voidwatch gifts from RoV...mm I wonder what that's gonna be.

I am expecting:
auto maxed procs for VW
cutdown of gil cost entry for legion
for abyssea i dont know what they want to do, auto maxed lights might hurt more then help in some cirumstances, prolly infinite time?

3. part will prolly be benefits all around ilvl content like delve hardmode battles skirmish etc.

[Damane]

double

[ccl]

Can carry more/unlimited stone for VW.

[dasva]

Free unlimited displacers

[Fwahm]

Abyssea could be something like every NM starts off already procced with all three types.