Dev Tracker: Discussion

[dasva]

Rhapsodies: It'll even control your weight gain. Possibly with heroin.

Just make sure your tp doesn't get too high because....

[Julian]

ffs I wish someone would ask them to fix the ranged mythics

[Damane]

all I am seeing for RNG and SMN suggestion is: nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope
lol
Seriously BST plays now even better and more like SMN then SMN ever has hahaha

[Hitou]

Hmm so BP damage + job points are bugged? I figured it was just +30 actual damage to BPs when it didn't seem to change my BP damage at all lol.

[dasva]

ffs I wish someone would ask them to fix the ranged mythics

I've brought it up a couple of times. Even made a thread about it once... iirc they put an "answer" in it that was totally off topic

[dasva]

Hmm so BP damage + job points are bugged? I figured it was just +30 actual damage to BPs when it didn't seem to change my BP damage at all lol.

my ls members are saying they see a difference but it small like what you'd expect from +30 base dmg

[Julian]

I've brought it up a couple of times. Even made a thread about it once... iirc they put an "answer" in it that was totally off topic

Keep trying!

There's no reason it can't be multi-hit like other mythics, since they've introduced multi-hit ranged weapons since then.

And even if not, why the fuck does that shit not proc on barrage or ws, like every other mythic?

:< still in the process of making one, cause I like rng, I want to believe

[dasva]

Keep trying!

There's no reason it can't be multi-hit like other mythics, since they've introduced multi-hit ranged weapons since then.

And even if not, why the fuck does that shit not proc on barrage or ws, like every other mythic?

:< still in the process of making one, cause I like rng, I want to believe

Yeah exactly why do melees get 2-3x the dmg +tp gain while ranged only get dmg. And than no proc on ws like them no proc on barrage like relic. I plan on making one too after I finish whm and maybe an idris... but if you finish it first maybe you can test it again. I only got to test on test server so could be one of those things that works one not on the other or something they ninja fixed (at least on the procs)

[BerenTebogo]

Would be nice if they buffed SMN up closer to BST. Would offer a bit more versatility of pet burns and shit.

[vivbiibasjiu]

Or maybe they'll nerf BST since it's overpowered

[Draylo]

It really isn't that overpowered, being the best at killing lv75 stuff isn't really that important.

[Spira]

not been playing for real in a while. whats so OP about BSTs now?

[Malithar]

It really isn't that overpowered, being the best at killing lv75 stuff isn't really that important.

I take it you haven't played with a good Bst lately. Ready timer is what, 15 seconds with max JP/gear, the ready moves when geared/supported right (Geo and Cor) are very strong, the pets are very resilient, even able to tank (big bird pet) NMs, and a good Bst is capable of SCing for support and mages to nuke the mob down. I don't know if I'd call it OP, cause honestly, we'd just go back to saying Sam is OP, Sch is OP, Geo is OP, etc. It has a place in the game now and it's more than capable of filling it. I don't think that's a bad thing for every job to have.

[Draylo]

I have played with BST, in high end content like Vagary/Delve/High lvl Incursion and I wasn't impressed by the damage compared to a buffed DD. I wouldn't call them overpowered at all. You seem to agree, so maybe you misunderstood my post. I guessed that guy was saying that since BST can do 21k AOEs to old crap like Einherjar.

[dasva]

not been playing for real in a while. whats so OP about BSTs now?

It's more like it's finally good. They made the ready moves deal enough dmg to be worth using and you can get down to 10 second recast per charge though stronger moves tend to cost more than 1 charge and better skillchain elements always do... I don't really understand the whole bst can use moves more often... sure that's true but bps are way more powerful and have better skillchain options. So the second they make 10 second bps bsts would be like well then my ready moves should be capable of what bps can do dmg wise.

Now survivability sure bst wins... but about half of that is because bst actually uses dt sets while most smns don't.

[dasva]

I guessed that guy was saying that since BST can do 21k AOEs to old crap like Einherjar.

If that person was impressed with that he would flip his lid at smns doing 40k-99999 flaming crushes into 60k-99999 light skillchians for even more in delve. Not to mention pet pulling which is hard to do on bst with timers and all. Also most jugs are horrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible when it comes to magic dmg. Like I finished up my testing today and just need to format it but sometime in the last few months they lowered all the jugs mdb so most of them are negative mdb now some a little some a lot. Luckily they got boss hp.

But yeah if you think smn isn't already pretty strong you haven't seen this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvqyMyZM1qY

[Draylo]

I have seen it and didn't mention SMN at all nor did anyone else. I was talking about BST.

[dasva]

Just putting that "OP" bst dmg into perspective

[Sechs]

my ls members are saying they see a difference but it small like what you'd expect from +30 base dmg

Yeah. Wonder in which way they're bugged though.
I mean certainly it cannot be BP +30 %, that would be way too much.
Altough BP+30 seems too low on the other hand, so I'm really wondering what that category was really supposed to do...

[BerenTebogo]

I have played with BST, in high end content like Vagary/Delve/High lvl Incursion and I wasn't impressed by the damage compared to a buffed DD. I wouldn't call them overpowered at all. You seem to agree, so maybe you misunderstood my post. I guessed that guy was saying that since BST can do 21k AOEs to old crap like Einherjar.

Put it this way: Equally geared / JPed (in the current FFXI environment) there is no one just without support that could pump out the damage that BST can pump out without support. Period. End of discussion. It's just math.

And yes, BST is far more well rounded than pretty much any other job as well currently. You just don't see a buffed SAM in vagary taking hate off a tiger if the tiger has rolls, it just doesn't happen.