Dev Tracker: Discussion

[Spira]

What the game needs now is multiple approaches to endgame that allows players a choice of what gear to get: HM AAs and DM should remain one option, Delve another, Skirmish, and whatever the endgame zone of Adoulin. It would be like Salvage, Einherjar, and Nyzul of the old days.

I too hope for a return to this system of gameplay in XI.

Mefuki's video link says it very well.. incomparables add depth to the game for sure, but even incomparables do face a very slight power creep, especially since most of the new unique stats have numeric modifiers.. that being said, FFXI was able to maintain such a situation from 2004-2010, which is basically the entire length of time when the level cap was 75. And they knew exactly how to do this because they were constantly changing up gear stats - job specific stats, latent effects, hiddens, enchantments, set bonuses, pulse, and to some extent augments...

I feel that the developers faced a dilemma in the sense that they wanted (had) to stay at lv99 but still introduce something that would prove challenging to high level players. unfortunately with the ilevel concept they instead introduced the problem of the vast difference between players of the very same level - resulting in the ilvl gear chase. there's good and bad.. since the gear chase meant that people would want to do new content. but also that if the difference was so huge it obsoleted all the gear.

[dasva]

So it seems english devs finally got around to translating random jp posts from the last month or so until and including todays lol. Nothing really of note that people in here don't already know

[NynJa]

Didn't they have dyes for the Evolith Synergy armor?

It affected the possible evoliths, so it wasnt just cosmetic.

[Karbuncle]

So it seems english devs finally got around to translating random jp posts from the last month or so until and including todays lol. Nothing really of note that people in here don't already know

well, they were on Vacation from around Christmas to today >_>;

[Kyte]

It affected the possible evoliths, so it wasnt just cosmetic.

That's kind of irrelevant though, not that you're necessarily implying otherwise.

[Prothescar]

Evolith system would've actually been pretty nice if there were any useful evoliths (outside of, like, niche BLM ones for pudding burns). The system itself was ideal for an augment system. Beats the living shit out of random pools of random.

[Spira]

i think the Evolith system would have worked perfectly if the Evoliths were specific kinda like the add-on scenario augments. then people would go hunting them like abjurations lol..

they could revamp Evoliths eventually.. seeing as they have yet to rework any of the WotG events and they totally could

[Kincard]

Didn't they have dyes for the Evolith Synergy armor?

It wasn't a "dye system" even if they gave the same slots because each armor piece was a unique item, rather than being an actual dye system where it's one piece that can have its color variable changed. End-user wise this is probably insignificant but it probably affects how much work it would take to add "dyes" to a particular armor piece.

I also agree that I liked most of what went into the evolith system...except for the crummy end rewards. And while all of you seem to really hate the red color, I always thought the Evolith armor pieces looked great. Would be cool if they reused those weird-ass weapon models it gave, too.

[Spira]

i don't think a real dye system will ever exist tho.. the armour dats simply weren't made to be capable of that. for the Ebon/Ebur/Furia armor sets each colour was essentially a different dat

[Kincard]

Yeah. I mean they can always recolor stuff but it takes a lot more work than just adding a new dye. Just in patch 2.1 for XIV they added like 6 new dyes which retroactively applied to every single piece of armor that could be dyed. You'd never be able to do that in XI without a ridiculous amount of work.

I think if they were ever going to spend that much effort on any sort of visual thing though, it would be a vanity gear system of some kind, there's a lot of gear in this game that isn't seen anymore that I would love to. The Jaridah Peti is one model I really like, for example. Unlikely, I know, but I can dream~

[Spira]

i think a vanity system would be pretty easy to implement. they already have naked mode right? It'd be nice if the vanity slot basically assigned you to one complete armor set.

I've always loved the visual feel of armour sets but at this point the best way to hope that they come back in style is to hope that they reintroduce them with lv99 stats… which also decreases the chances of gear that exhibit regional influence to appear again…

[pancakesandsex]

Yeah. I mean they can always recolor stuff but it takes a lot more work than just adding a new dye. Just in patch 2.1 for XIV they added like 6 new dyes which retroactively applied to every single piece of armor that could be dyed. You'd never be able to do that in XI without a ridiculous amount of work.

I think if they were ever going to spend that much effort on any sort of visual thing though, it would be a vanity gear system of some kind, there's a lot of gear in this game that isn't seen anymore that I would love to. The Jaridah Peti is one model I really like, for example. Unlikely, I know, but I can dream~

I don't think anyone is asking for that level of detail, I'd be happy just like to have skirmish gear available in the 3 already existing color variants for those models.

[Kincard]

Post 1: Site says you can exchange 1000 points for Bomb Masque but you actually can't. Whoops.

Post 2: Can't use BST abilities (Charm/Gauge) while your Trusts are out, fix is in progress. Apparently Tame is intentional though.

[Anomie]

Doesn't everyone use datswapped models and/or the option to put all players in RSE?

Sea of red isn't really even on a lot of peoples radar I would think.

[Damane]

Doesn't everyone use datswapped models and/or the option to put all players in RSE?

Sea of red isn't really even on a lot of peoples radar I would think.

I dont use datswappes or anything like that, I actually like to sea what people actually wear

[dasva]

I would wager that the majority of players don't dat swap gear

[NynJa]

Most dont, and the only ones that do, dat swap their own gear so they can look like Cloud (sarcasm).

Even then, you cant datswap so one cizin mail is blue, one is red, one is green, one is black, etc. Although I'm sure the basis is the fact that hagondes = red, iuitl = red, cizin = red, etc.

[Tarage]

I thought they said the reason they didn't want to do transmutation was because they thought people would always want to end up naked.

I swear I read that post somewhere...

[Karbuncle]

Most dont, and the only ones that do, dat swap their own gear so they can look like Cloud (sarcasm).

Even then, you cant datswap so one cizin mail is blue, one is red, one is green, one is black, etc. Although I'm sure the basis is the fact that hagondes = red, iuitl = red, cizin = red, etc.

Yah, those sets being red does lend to a red population in a lot of cases, though alleviated somewhat by Eminence gear which is bringing back old fashioned sets, I personally love the Gambison so I'm okay with it.

Regardless, those sets are the original Evolith sets in some way, I can't imagine it would be terribly difficult for them to create those sets in all 3 colors, allowing you to dye them at an NPC for a small price (or even those Butterfly things to give them a new use). It would be a temporary solution at least... I did like the Ebur set. So that'd be a nice solution , the foundation for the colors already exist.

[scaevola]

Didn't they have dyes for the Evolith Synergy armor?

The results were completely different pieces of armor.