Dev Tracker: Discussion

[EjinCaitsith]

I was getting x2 abj. and weapons from tier2 NMs from same pool, which I didn't think was possible after killing 30+ without ever seeing it, then killing 5-6 and seeing double from 4 of them. I believe I popped them right after I took part in a wyrm kill too. Have killed 15 or so tier2 since emergency maint and haven't seen a double, so might be related.

[BerenTebogo]

Double of the same abj or just 2x abj dropping? We got 2x double abj tonight, 1x from T2 and 1x from Morta.

[Snprphnx]

Wow.

Wonder if trusts will get the same cruor and atma bonuses as us

[Lyramion]

Did they just.... supergimp Delve? I mean with 3 man HP I can basically MB Helix II and sip tea while NM dies even if they have annoying dmg gimicks like in Kamir.

[Draylo]

Kinda lame but oh well.

[Damane]

Wow.

Wonder if trusts will get the same cruor and atma bonuses as us

i doubt that. so far trusts never benefited from system buffs, only direct buffs you applied to them personal or from other buffs. i really wouldnt even want aby buffs on trusts. it would just make things more annoying to not kill so fast.

[Sechs]

Was another nerf to Delve really necessary?

[PSOfanatic]

I think it was pretty necessary. I think most, if not all of us, maxed delve out? This will help other players catch up faster so they are able to do some of the harder content. Only thing though, is this will cut into my money making funds. Oh well!

[Fwahm]

i doubt that. so far trusts never benefited from system buffs, only direct buffs you applied to them personal or from other buffs. i really wouldnt even want aby buffs on trusts. it would just make things more annoying to not kill so fast.

Wrong topic for this, but what are you talking about? Trusts definitely benefit from vorseals.

[arus2001]

I think it was pretty necessary. I think most, if not all of us, maxed delve out? This will help other players catch up faster so they are able to do some of the harder content. Only thing though, is this will cut into my money making funds. Oh well!

Yeah, some need to acknowledge this change isn't for the people who are and have been done with the stuff. I'd tried a couple times to throw a group together during the freebie time here since my gear blows only to get met with crickets. Most content shouts seem to be for SR and the occasional WKR or 3/3/3 skirmish.

[NynJa]

The only thing Delve offers now are the synth mats, and maybe a handful of equipment thats still BIS.

[fantasticdan]

Delve was already easy before the insane buffs players have gotten recently (skillchains, magic bursts, gear, OP gifts, etc.), I don't think boss HP was really the issue for players that can't get people together for clears.

[dasva]

You'd be surprised how often poorly geared or ones without the rights jobs can eventually kill stuff but end up timing out still. And I think it's more about farming those zones for those people than simple clears since these people probably aren't full clearing any zone for good plasma farming to begin with. Might even be out there to somewhat help Ergon makers since I think that's the only part of any of the REMs that can't be solod

[NynJa]

Delve was already easy before the insane buffs players have gotten recently (skillchains, magic bursts, gear, OP gifts, etc.), I don't think boss HP was really the issue for players that can't get people together for clears.

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Considering that the new abjus need the Delve synth mats to make, increasing supply isnt a bad thing. Everyone has moved on to SR and Escha for content.

[fantasticdan]

For many of the jobs people actually play nowadays (blu, bst, sch, etc) the difference between 0 and 1200 jp is absolutely massive. Even for jobs with bad jps/unique gifts, the passive bonuses to acc/atk/acc/matk/mdef/meva/etc are a pretty big deal when added up that you didn't have when delve was current.

And how is lowering boss hp going to increase delve mat supply? Many players could solo delve with trusts as is, the cock block is the 3-player entry requirement.

[Isiolia]

And how is lowering boss hp going to increase delve mat supply? Many players could solo delve with trusts as is, the cock block is the 3-player entry requirement.

My guess is that this is prep work for allowing that. Chances are it'll just be a footnote in the patch notes, like being able to pop Unity NMs was. Or it could wind up being something allowed by a RoV KI. I see it less as trying to make it relevant for accomplished players today, and more directed at making Delve/etc readily doable content next year, or the year after.

[Maurauc]

BREAKING NEWS:
Lion wears velcro underwear:
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Aloha Iroha

[EjinCaitsith]

Double of the same abj or just 2x abj dropping? We got 2x double abj tonight, 1x from T2 and 1x from Morta.

It was in Ru'Aun. Out of 6 tier2 pops, I got double drops 4 times and yeah, iirc they were duplicates of each other right after participating in a wyrm kill.

[Prothescar]

o wow, didn't expect SE to make a comic like that!

[Kyreth]

o wow, didn't expect SE to make a comic like that!

You haven't seen the game text about Maat and his panty-destroying Asuran Fists yet, have you?