Dev Tracker: Discussion

[dasva]

Yeah but as it is, no PUG or LS will welcome those other jobs, even once you do gear it. So you better enjoy soloing or have friends who will tolerate it

Although this was always the case with certain jobs, when it's been so unbalanced that you bring ONE dd job to all events, those who aren't interested in that job will just quit

Personally i don't give a damn about someone soloing VD battles while i can "only" solo D. What i find frustrating is my LS could always do these events before BST was jotm, but now we bring bst onry because it makes things just a little faster. I mean is that really worth excluding 14 other jobs? But i have no say in the matter until it's nerfed

Um I'm in a pet LS and we still welcome and frequently use jobs that are neither pets nor support/tanks. We don't really have enough people willing to play whm to use melees often but we often use manaburn tactics for when that's better/faster. And even of the pets we use smn just as much as bst... pup doesn't get much love anymore though unless tanking. Or sometimes we just go as whatever (like nin tanks and random magic dmg rngs lol) to have fun... maybe that's the key. If you are still going to win why not also try to have fun in this game? What's a few seconds off the kill time? Especially if you get to use a job that you are probably better geared at and are doing better with anyways

As far as shouts go only things I don't see asked for (other than VW because that doesn't count) are certain DDs like war, mnk, drk, drg, and sam (which all have had their time where people only wanted them though drg was a really long time ago) and the unloved tank and pet job nin and pup... part of that being the 1hd update was really that good for 1hd jobs and people aren't really willing to give nin or pup a try though both can be rather good

[NynJa]

Some people do random solo stuff on their one job. I have had many friends who are what we'd call a 'casual', in that they play maybe 3 times a week on one job.

And they would just go out and do random solo shit all the time, and that was that. Not every player is hard as fuck and aims for pimp gear and to rock the latest content. Hell Ive got LS members who still don't have any delve clears because they just don't care about post adoulin content. They'd much rather go farm dyna/salvage and solo nyzul isle, shit like that.

Well then I dont think this casual person who isnt aiming for pimp gear or rocking the latest content is going to lose sleep over the fact they cant do Sinister Reign because the one job they have fun with isnt useful for it.

[Sechs]

How "fun" is it sitting in your mog house because you only have one job in a game that has 22 jobs and is designed to be multi-class per character?

I don't wanna sound mean or arrogant, but if someone, to date, is a long time player and has only one job levelled, he's playing this game the wrong way. It's not meant to be played that way and it couldn't be any other way, period.
Everybody is of course free to enjoy this game the way they like it, absolutely. But someone who plays that way has very little right to complain about game being unbalanced or "wrong".

Imho.

[Not Kuno]

Pissed theres only 1 Cipher this time around. I'm missing a lot of trusts, would have liked to get more. What the hell am I going to spend my points on.

[Damane]

there double exp/cp campaign kicking off on thursday

[Ligray]

Enter the Fray with the Latest Goddess's Gala Campaigns! (09/08/2015)

The following campaigns will blink into existence on Thursday, September 10 at 8:00 a.m. (PDT)!

Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 8:00 a.m. (PDT) to Wednesday, September 30 at 7:59 a.m.

Double Experience Campaign
Experience earned from vanquishing monsters will be doubled.

Double Capacity Point Campaign
Capacity points earned from vanquishing monsters will be double.

Double Monstrosity Experience Campaign
Experience points earned from vanquishing monsters will be doubled.

Double Simulacra Segment Drop Rate Campaign
The odds that simulacrum segments will drop in colonization and lair reives will be doubled.

Skirmish Treasure Coffer Upgrade Campaign
The odds that personal treasure coffers will rank up in normal and alluvion skirmishes will be greatly increased, yielding an increased likelihood of finding high quality skirmish stones, translurry, and transmelange.

Mog Garden Campaign
Mog Gardens will undergo the following adjustments.

- Double the normal amount of shining stars will be earned.
- Different flotsam will wash up upon the shores.
- Reared creatures will provide items twice daily.
- Moogles in the Mog Gardens will sell the following items.
   Golden seed pouch / Chestnut tree sap / Monarch beetle saliva / Bronze Bed /
   Mahogany Bed / Noble?s Bed / Goblin Stew 880

Alter Ego Expo
Alter egos will undergo the following adjustments.

- Maximum HP and MP will be increased by 50%
- Alter egos will gain a high resistance to status ailments.


Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 8:00 a.m. (PDT) to Tuesday, September 15 at 9:59 p.m.

Double Synthesis Skill Gain Rate Campaign
Synthesis, synergy, and fishing skill gain rate will be doubled. Be the best crafter you can be!


Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 11:30 p.m. (PDT) to Wednesday, September 30 at 7:59 a.m.

Skirmish Stone and Arcane Glyptics Campaign
Engraving the following items with arcane glyptics will yield better results than before.

Ninza +2 / Leisilonu +2 / Iztaasu +2 / Crobaci +2 / Faizeer +2 / Iclamar +2 / Iizamal +2 / Qatsunoci +2 / Kannakiri+2 / Shichishito +2 / Aedold +2 / Lehbrailg +2 / Uffrat +2 / Bocluamni +2 / Hgafircian +2

Cizin Helm +1 / Cizin Mail +1 / Cizin Mufflers +1 / Cizin Breeches +1 / Cizin Greaves +1 / Otronif Mask +1 / Otronif Harness +1 / Otronif Gloves +1 / Otronif Brais +1 / Otronif Boots +1 / Iuitl Headgear +1 / Iuitl Vest +1 / Iuitl Wristbands +1 / Iuitl Tights +1 / Iuitl Gaiters +1 / Gendewitha Caubeen *1 / Gendewitha Bliaut +1 / Gendewitha Gages +1 / Gendewitha Spats +1 / Gendewitha Galoshes +1 / Hagondes Hat +1 / Hagondes Coat +1 / Hagondes Cuffs +1 / Hagondes Pants +1 / Hagondes Sabot +1 / Beatific Shield +1

[Draylo]

Oh wow, nice ones. Skill up campaign and hagondes augments.

[Sechs]

Wish they'll do a similar campaign for Alluvion skirmish in the future. The augment one I mean.
Are any of the original Skirmish weapons still relevant? I guess Lebrahilg +2 can be a nice option for macc if you manage to get a high value there.

[NynJa]

Does that mean the cap on every aug will be raised, or will stones just land on a higher roll more often?

Wish they'll do a similar campaign for Alluvion skirmish in the future. The augment one I mean.
Are any of the original Skirmish weapons still relevant? I guess Lebrahilg +2 can be a nice option for macc if you manage to get a high value there.

SE clearly saw this recent discussion about "bubble only GEO's" and made it easier for them to get a nuking staff, since GEO's best nuking staff is a nearly capped MAB Lehbrailg or a Frazil Staff (that I noticed)

[Damane]

Does that mean the cap on every aug will be raised, or will stones just land on a higher roll more often?



SE clearly saw this recent discussion about "bubble only GEO's" and made it easier for them to get a nuking staff, since GEO's best nuking staff is a nearly capped MAB Lehbrailg or a Frazil Staff (that I noticed)

dunno marin staff or venabulum seem decent options, i went for marin staff +1 since it offers also some m.acc which comes in handy, lebrailg only offers more MAB (which is nice) but i really dont like to neglect m.acc :/

[Sechs]

Does that mean the cap on every aug will be raised, or will stones just land on a higher roll more often?

Who knows? But if I had to bet on something I'd bet everything on just slightly more favorable RNG but same caps.

SE clearly saw this recent discussion about "bubble only GEO's" and made it easier for them to get a nuking staff, since GEO's best nuking staff is a nearly capped MAB Lehbrailg or a Frazil Staff (that I noticed)

I started a discussion on FFXIAH about dualwielding GEO. I'm not good enough to math things out, but I think with the clubs available GEO could get much better results by going /DNC or /NIN and nuking with 2 clubs rather than with one of the available staves (Marin+1 is pretty good as well, shines especially for Wind nukes but thanks to the unity bonus INT it's quite nice for the other elements as well)

[Damane]

Who knows? But if I had to bet on something I'd bet everything on just slightly more favorable RNG but same caps.




I started a discussion on FFXIAH about dualwielding GEO. I'm not good enough to math things out, but I think with the clubs available GEO could get much better results by going /DNC or /NIN and nuking with 2 clubs rather than with one of the available staves (Marin+1 is pretty good as well, shines especially for Wind nukes but thanks to the unity bonus INT it's quite nice for the other elements as well)

while dualwielding offers alot power, in a mage setup not haveing convert will hurt you alot especially when you keep bubbles up and go for high tier nukes you will run into MP issues, we have none of the empy WSs to recover MP so... i rather stick to /RDM and convert for that matter ¬.¬ (at least until empy WSs become available for geo ._.). And no Radial arcana alone doesnt cover it

[Sechs]

Realistically the DW setup is only possible in a a scenario where you can get Refresh2 and can use Aspir or you're getting ballads etc. A combination of these factors.
With something like this happening and a smart use of Radial Arcana, it could be viable and you'd be able to get more power, more macc etc by dualwielding clubs.

On that topic, I think the best available atm probably is Rubicundity x2? After that probably 2x Solstice.

[Ligray]

Looks like SE provided Geomancy buffs values Linkage.

[Vathris]

Double Capacity Point Campaign
Capacity points earned from vanquishing monsters will be double.

[dasva]

What's with those percentage values for mdb and mab? Since as far as we know nothing else gives anything but whole amounts I want to say it's wrong but I seem to recall some weird stuff that did suggest that back when I was doing geo testing

[nivlakian]

What's with those percentage values for mdb and mab? Since as far as we know nothing else gives anything but whole amounts I want to say it's wrong but I seem to recall some weird stuff that did suggest that back when I was doing geo testing

Pretty sure they are not correct. The values look like they copy pasted something from their other chart and forgot to change the value. Martel made a chart for MAB+ somewhere on BG before and I tested MAB+/MDB+ myself as well. Acumen, for example reaches ~65+ MAB with Idris and the math never suggested it should be some form of percentage rather than how we already know MAB works.

Also, the Refresh entry should say 900 skill for 6mp/tic instead of 600.

[dasva]

Maybe they were just going by percent dmg change and totally forgot about base values?

[Martel]

Yeah. those MDB/MAB values are weird. But still, it's great to see Attunement and Focus values. Cause I was neeeeever gonna test those. <,<

[Rehn]

Amen. Time to ding 1200 JP on BST.