Dev Tracker: Discussion

[NynJa]

Forgot about cape's aug. I knew it capped at 30 though. It saves you from fighting the RNG on cape aug though. You could toss hundreds of crystals at the NPC and never get a good aug.

[Damane]

Forgot about cape's aug. I knew it capped at 30 though. It saves you from fighting the RNG on cape aug though. You could toss hundreds of crystals at the NPC and never get a good aug.

tbh they should have reworked the BP cap and went with 40 cap on BP I and 20 on BP II. giving more incentiv to get every single piece. tough not sure if it would make the job retardedly strong, but SMN has a natural limit called MP compared to some other jobs and not so sturdy pets.

[NynJa]

tbh they should have reworked the BP cap and went with 40 cap on BP I and 20 on BP II. giving more incentiv to get every single piece. tough not sure if it would make the job retardedly strong, but SMN has a natural limit called MP compared to some other jobs and not so sturdy pets.

Well the initial theory was "matching with haste cap"...since it matched up with Haste's 25%. Except haste has multiple soft caps before reaching that hard cap. If anything, the 1200 gift should just circumvent caps.

[Tarage]

Forgot about cape's aug. I knew it capped at 30 though. It saves you from fighting the RNG on cape aug though. You could toss hundreds of crystals at the NPC and never get a good aug.

So saving an inventory slot is worthwhile for a job-defining bonus?

Are you listening to yourself?

[NynJa]

So saving an inventory slot is worthwhile for a job-defining bonus?

Are you listening to yourself?

Dasva said saving an inventory slot

I said you could toss hundreds of crystals at the NPC and never even get the BP Delay II -3. Wait, it only caps at 3...
-3 Dalm+1
-2 Espiritus
-1 119 Relic ft
-5 Seraphicaller
-3 Cape aug <- WHICH YOU COULD POTENTIALLY NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER GET THANKS RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR
= 14

What am I missing if "the gift is useless"? Its one second, but its one second you otherwise have to wait without it.

[geno3302]

Dasva said saving an inventory slot

I said you could toss hundreds of crystals at the NPC and never even get the BP Delay II -3. Wait, it only caps at 3...
-3 Dalm+1
-2 Espiritus
-1 119 Relic ft
-5 Seraphicaller
-3 Cape aug <- WHICH YOU COULD POTENTIALLY NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER GET THANKS RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR
= 14

What am I missing if "the gift is useless"? Its one second, but its one second you otherwise have to wait without it.

I haven't read all this, but just to jump in. SMN gets two BP recast time gifts. The second one is worthless. Ignoring the cape that you seem to think is impossible to get, you still have 11 BP recast timer II in gear meaning you only need the first gift to cap. The second gift just invalidates all the gear you own since you only need gifts + seraphicaller to cap.

[NynJa]

I dont play lolSMN :D and I never said its "impossible to get", I said its possible to never get BP Delay II -3, thats all

previous post stands:

Well the initial theory was "matching with haste cap"...since it matched up with Haste's 25%. Except haste has multiple soft caps before reaching that hard cap. If anything, the 1200 gift should just circumvent caps.

Every other gift that should be subjected to caps seems to circumvent caps.

[Suteru]

Corsair 550 QD gift doesn't circumvent cap. We're capped at 35s.

[vivbiibasjiu]

Any serious summoner who is even thinking of getting 1200 JP has already had 30 second BP timers a loooooong time ago Nynja, so your point is moot. It's completely worthless. It's not as hard as you're making it out to be to get to 30 seconds anyway, and you don't need a perfect cape either

[dasva]

So saving an inventory slot is worthwhile for a job-defining bonus?

Are you listening to yourself?

Whoa no one said it was job defining I was just pointing out it did do something. It's just that something is near worthless. Really though the 1200s are super hit or miss.the only ones I'd reall call job defining are whm, blm, blu, sch, blu maybe rdm and pup... one of these things is not like the others lol. Most the rest just get a small boost to what they are doing. Others like smn get nearly useless ones. And then some like mnk get ones that actively hurts them

[The Assman]

I'm still too afraid to throw away my BP delay cape in case they ever do decide to change the cap.

[Kyte]

Corsair 550 QD gift doesn't circumvent cap. We're capped at 35s.

The difference between the SMN situation and the COR situation is that one gift gives essentially nothing to SMN that went after all BP II gear (which would typically be the same ones that would bother CPing it in the first place), while the COR one still has a use due to the lack of a 2-stage check when activating QD. You're still gaining potency and accuracy when making the gear swaps that the gift allows.

If anything, the Snapshot ones are worth getting mad about.

[NynJa]

Any serious summoner who is even thinking of getting 1200 JP has already had 30 second BP timers a loooooong time ago Nynja, so your point is moot. It's completely worthless. It's not as hard as you're making it out to be to get to 30 seconds anyway, and you don't need a perfect cape either

I dont consider 3 months to be "a looooooong time ago". Its not recent, but you can take your sarcasm and exaggeration and shove it up your ass.

[dasva]

Smaller battle areas? Ah yeah let's make everyone have to stand in range. Geos for everyone!

[Draylo]

Apparently after DEC update we aren't getting an update until APR where they will do a monthly battlefields and ROE content(UNMs?) Then some update in March for the end of console support.

[Tarage]

What the hell are people complaining about in regards to the size of the battle areas? They seem fine to me. Why is this a problem?

[Damane]

What the hell are people complaining about in regards to the size of the battle areas? They seem fine to me. Why is this a problem?

problem on #9 is that you cant zone/teleport/run out of range when you wipe and want to restart the battle fresh. You basicly are forced to either warp or die and homepoint or wait 15 min till the time is up, because you cant interact with teleporters when in battle state.

this doesnt only apply to 9 but mostly there.

[vivbiibasjiu]

I dont consider 3 months to be "a looooooong time ago". Its not recent, but you can take your sarcasm and exaggeration and shove it up your ass.

Where was there any sarcasm or exaggeration? It's been much longer than 3 months that any halfway competent SMN has had 30 second bloodpact timers. You don't even play the job so stop speaking like you know anything about it when you clearly don't.

[Damane]

someone ask on the OFs why there wasnt an Aeonic HANDBELL included for GEO like shield and flute was for PLD and BRD...

for gods sake SE would it have been so bad to give us another OP legendary accessoire that doubles indi-spell duration and augments entrust to give full benefit effects of geomancy+!!!!

[dasva]

Well part of that probably has to do with what those jobs already get in those slots and current slots... there is a good chance that the flute and shield overall worse except a niche here and there compared to what else you can get in those slots currently. If they did make something for geomancy I'd imagine it would probably be in the weapon slot.