Dev Tracker: Discussion

[scaevola]

As much as I'd like another expansion (who wouldn't?), the last chapter of RoV worked as well as it did because it was pretty conscious of itself as a metaphor for the game ending.

Your friends slowly abandon you, and in the end it's just you in a tiny pocket of the world, while the rest of it is swallowed up by stagnation and oblivion. But the world never has to go out that way, as long as you keep finding reasons to keep the adventure going and trust in your subscription feesthe power of Phoenix's perpetual rebirth.

[Byrthnoth]

Good thing they didn't yet notice that FOCUS is absolutly broken as well and gives like 160+ MACC making the reign of mages an easy one.

As far as I know they were just correcting their post where they gave values for acumen/fend, not actually changing anything in game.

[Fwahm]

We have considered several ways to address this; however, we have decided to adjust the values to follow our the originally designed value. We’re planning to address this in the next version update.

They're planning on nerfing them to the values they stated in the original version of the post.

[Anoat]

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/cam...n/login33.html

Pil's Tuille at 2k points I know will make a lot of people happy.

[Lyramion]

but rather an increase to the delay on the Aeonic Weapon “Godhands”

Wait a second... did SE just try to nerf ME personally ? Or did anyone else build those yet?

[Fwahm]

They're not nerfing Godhands.

[Tarage]

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/cam...n/login33.html

Pil's Tuille at 2k points I know will make a lot of people happy.

Doesn't make me happy I was trying to sell those fuckers...

[NynJa]

Anyway, WHERE IS MY DOUBLE UNITY COFFER CAMPAIGN SE?!

I guess SE reads these forums.

Campaign Period: From Tuesday, March 8 at 7:00 a.m. (PST) to Tuesday, March 15 at 7:59 a.m. (PDT)

Chain Experience Bonus Campaign
Earn from double to three times the normal amount of experience from experience chains.

Chain Capacity Point Bonus Campaign
Earn from double to three times the normal amount of capacity points from experience chains.

Chain Monstrosity Bonus Campaign
Earn from double to three times the normal amount of experience from experience chains.

Mog Gardens Campaign
Mog Gardens will undergo the following modifications throughout the duration.
- The number of shining stars received when entering a Mog Garden will be doubled.
- The coastal fishing net will provide different special items.
- Items may be harvest from Monster Rearing twice per day.
- The following items will be sold in the gardens specially throughout the duration.
Golden Seed Pouch / Chestnut Tree Sap / Monarch Beetle Saliva
Mahogany Bed / Noble?s Bed / Goblin Stew 880

Alter Ego Expo Campaign HQ
When you take an amount of damage exceeding your remaining HP, you will negate the damage and restore your HP to its maximum value for one time only.*
* Does not apply to the "Iroha" alter ego.
* Does not apply to techniques such as the dark magic spell "Death" or the "Doom" special attack.

Double Unity Accolade Campaign
Unity accolade gains from completing Records of Eminence objectives and vanquishing monsters are doubled!

Unity Wanted Campaign
During the campaign, completing Wanted I and Wanted II Records of Eminence objectives will yield 2 treasure chests of each type.

High-Tier Mission Battlefield Campaign
The number of personal drops in the following battlefields will be increased by one, and players will receive either a pluton, a pluton case, a pluton box, a chunk of beitetsu, a beitetsu case, a beitetsu box, a riftborn boulder, a boulder case, or a boulder box.
★Ark Ange?s 1 / ★Ark Angels 2 / ★Ark Angels 3 / ★Ark Angels 4 / ★Ark Angels 5 /
★Return to Delkfutt's Tower / ★The Celestial Nexus / ★The Savage / ★The Warrior's Path /
★Puppet in Peril / ★Legacy of the Lost / ★Rank 5 Mission / ★Head Wind /
★One to be Feared / ★Dawn / ★Pentacide Perpetrator / ★Trial by Fire / ★Trial by Ice /
★Trial by Wind / ★Trial by Earth / ★Trial by Lightning / ★Trial by Water /
★The Moonlit Path / ★Waking the Beast / ★Waking Dreams
* Higher quality items will drop more frequently on higher difficulties.

Domain Invasion Campaign
The respawn time of notorious monsters will be halved during the campaign.

Dark Matter Arcane Glyptics Campaign
Geas Fete notorious monsters in Reisenjima through Arcane Glyptics can be engraved with arcane glyptics up to six times at no additional charge, with the equipment receiving the same benefits as if they were engraved with dark matter.
* Visit Oseem in Norg (I-7) to engrave your equipment.
* At 7:00 a.m. (PST) each day (Earth time), the restriction is lifted and you will be able to engrave your equipment up to six times again.

Special Dial Campaign
Players will receive a #SP dial key each day upon logging in. This key can be traded to the NPC at the Gobbie Mystery Box to spin the special dial.
* No dally tally will be expanded upon spinning the special dial.
* Only characters for whom 25 days or more has passed since character creation are eligible to use the Gobbie Mystery Box.

More free Dark matter augs, SP Gobbie Keys are back, Ego's get a free Reraise, and double unity coffers.

[Anoat]

I'm glad double xp is still going on, I'm trying to hammer out the last of my jobs to 75 before March 31st for the Xbox 360 achievements, as lame as that can make me sound.

[Lyramion]

They're not nerfing Godhands.

Not for now, but they acknowledged an imbalance in D to Delay ratio.

[nivlakian]

Assuming the information about attack speed hasn't changed at some point over the years, increasing the delay on Godhands may actually be a good thing assuming your MNK has the martial arts job points gifts.

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https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Attack_speed

For Martial Arts, which is not a percentage-based decrease, you must use your base delay (480 for H2H) plus weapon delay in the calculations instead of calculating it independent of delay as shown above.

Minimum H2H delay is 96
The 80% Delay reduction cap still applies to your (Base Delay + Weapon Delay).

For example when calculating delay with H2H you take (480 (Base Delay) +xx (+Weapon Delay) -xx(MA Delay Reduction))×(1024 - xx Equipment Haste - xx Magic Haste - xx Job Ability Haste)÷1024 =xx

The minimum delay possible for a Spharai would be (480 Base Delay + 86 Weapon Delay)*.2 Delay cap = 113.2 minimum possible delay.
The delay for a Spharai Monk with capped gear and magic haste only, would be (480 Base Delay + 86 Weapon Delay - 200 Martial Arts Delay)×(1024 - 256 Equipment Haste - 448 Magic Haste)=114.3 which is nearly minimum delay. You would only need 1% job ability haste from Haste Samba to cap delay reduction.

Capped Magic Haste = 448/1024
Capped Gear Haste = 256/1024
Martial Arts of Lv99 MNK = 280 base delay

Minimum Delays
Verethragna: 0.2 * (480 + 51) = 106.2
Spharai: 0.2 * (480 + 86) = 113.2
Glanzfaust: 0.2 * (480 + 96) = 115.2
Godhands: 0.2 * (480 + 60) = 108


Delay with no martial arts gifts and capped haste:
Verethragna: (280 + 51) * (1 - 256/1024 - 448/1024) = 103.4375
Spharai: (280 + 86) * (1 - 256/1024 - 448/1024) = 114.375
Glanzfaust: (280 + 96) * (1 - 256/1024 - 448/1024) = 117.5
Godhands: (280 + 60) * (1 - 256/1024 - 448/1024) = 106.25
Vereth and Godhands are already below their minimum possible delay.

Delay with 1 MA gift and capped haste:
Verethragna: (280 + 51 - 5) * (1 - 256/1024 - 448/1024) = 101.875
Spharai: (280 + 86 - 5) * (1 - 256/1024 - 448/1024) = 112.8125
Glanzfaust: (280 + 96 - 5) * (1 - 256/1024 - 448/1024) = 115.9375
Godhands: (280 + 60 - 5) * (1 - 256/1024 - 448/1024) = 104.6875
Vereth, Godhands, and Spharai are below their minimum possible delay.

Delay with 2 MA gift and capped haste:
Verethragna: (280 + 51 - 10) * (1 - 256/1024 - 448/1024) = 100.3125
Spharai: (280 + 86 - 10) * (1 - 256/1024 - 448/1024) = 111.25
Glanzfaust: (280 + 96 - 10) * (1 - 256/1024 - 448/1024) = 114.375
Godhands: (280 + 60 - 10) * (1 - 256/1024 - 448/1024) = 103.125
All 4 of the H2H are below their minimum possible delay.

Delay with 2 MA gift and using Reforged Empyrean Body and capped haste:
Verethragna: (280 + 51 - 16) * (1 - 256/1024 - 448/1024) = 98.4375
Spharai: (280 + 86 - 16) * (1 - 256/1024 - 448/1024) = 109.375
Glanzfaust: (280 + 96 - 16) * (1 - 256/1024 - 448/1024) = 112.5
Godhands: (280 + 60 - 16) * (1 - 256/1024 - 448/1024) = 101.25
All 4 of the H2H are below their minimum possible delay.


Feel free to double check the math as I may have made a mistake somewhere, but generally speaking it seems the MA gifts ultimately are detrimental depending on which H2H weapon you use since as far as I understand you'd still be lowering tp gain per strike with no additional benefit.

[Hitou]

If you're over-capping haste with MA, like dual wield, you do gain less TP the more you add, but adding a higher delay weapon doesn't help beyond the higher TP you get from said total delay. You'd sill be losing tp per hit with overflow MA traits. Only difference is your delay is now slower too.

[Kincard]

IIRC for high buff situations Martial Arts traits does kind of "favor" higher delay weapons slightly because of how its a direct numerical subtraction to your delay rather than a percentage reduction like Dual Wield is, so the proportion of your delay it's reducing is lower for high delay weapons. Thus you'll need more haste to be able to actually hit minimum delay as compared with a lower delay weapon, as shown above.

That's, of course, assuming whatever stats on the weapon is worth the higher capped delay. I'm betting Verethragna still maths out on top in most situations despite it hitting the delay cap earlier.

[Anoat]

XP and CP bonuses are gone this week. Crafting double skillups are back.

[dasva]

Man English side forums seem dead. Seems to be a couple new jp dev posts though. Think someone about using skill up items in garden for 1. And something about pup I can't make heads or tails of

[Kincard]

A ton of the posts before today were about things I imagined a lot of you don't care about, or things you already knew (and a couple help text problems exclusive to the Japanese client) so I skipped over them.

One of them is confirming that Iroha is excepted from the Trust Campaign HQ because its something she already normally does.

There's an unconfirmed bug report about Arise recast occurring even when the spell doesn't go off ("Please submit a proper bug report etc")

People asked to be able to use various items in the Garden like Miratete's Memoirs, Echad/Trizek Ring, Talaria etc, but they said they have to look into it so the servers don't explode from it or something. They gave several different responses regarding specific items but the reason never seems to be consistent. Conclusion's always the same "we'll have to look into it" stuff though.

Someone asked if they could make Wyrms fly and then land when you come near them in the Mog Garden, and maybe even do damage to you when it happens. They said no because technical aspects etc.

Also there's no short story to go with the Egg Hunt for the first time in...ever, I think? Think that says a lot.

[dasva]

What was the pup thing about?

[Draylo]

Yeah I noticed that about the Egg Hunt, I never really read them anyways but you notice when they're gone lol.

[kittycatrag]

Ambuscade - new battle content- announced on pol site. i hope it's melee friendly. hahahaha ;<

[Psion]

As well as a mount system (a raptor was shown... maybe an actual use for monstrosity?!? <_<; nah.) and trust emotion linking. I'm guessing that just means they do /emote when you do it.

oh, and a second mog wardrobe.

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also, kittycatrag's avatar confused the heck out of me until i noticed it wasn't animated. lol