Dev Tracker: Discussion

[Byrthnoth]

I got a megalixir this month but stopped shy of the gobbiedial key. Did anyone get the gobbiedial key, and what did you get from it?

[Modoru]

I got a megalixir this month but stopped shy of the gobbiedial key. Did anyone get the gobbiedial key, and what did you get from it?

Is the key any different than the one you can get from the Unity Concord NPC?

[dasva]

Is the key any different than the one you can get from the Unity Concord NPC?

No it's exactly the same as SP keys from any source be it the unity npc or various campaigns or this. Though until a few days ago the gobbie was giving out better stuff from keys/special dial

[Byrthnoth]

Maybe not? I think it's called gobbiedial key in the menu, but if I search xiah I only find:

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/SP_Gobbie_Key

Which is technically a gobbiedial key in the longer description. So they're probably ordinary.

[Modoru]

Maybe not? I think it's called gobbiedial key in the menu, but if I search xiah I only find:

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/SP_Gobbie_Key

Which is technically a gobbiedial key in the longer description. So they're probably ordinary.

Yeah, that's what I thought. That's why I was asking.

[Sechs]

Are people really whining about ambuscade grind?
I'm one of the less grindy players around, I didn't even complete a single 119v3 weapon yet (now THAT is a huge grind) and people complain about ambuscade?
I was done with that in like 3-4 days.

I must be missing something, the question is what?

[NynJa]

A change of scenery.

Spoiler: show

then, by all means

So fighting dragon 50 times is "boring and requires a change of scenery", but fighting AAGK 100 times is ok, or fighting that bugard 100 times in reisen is ok or fighting VD tenzen 100 times is ok, etc etc


Did i miss the memo on how Gallantry will work? How is getting the points via Gallantry over Hallmarks supposed to be any less of a grind?

[scaevola]

I'm one of the less grindy players around, I didn't even complete a single 119v3 weapon yet (now THAT is a huge grind) and people complain about ambuscade?

I've completed a 119v3 mythic (just recently), and was not particularly bothered by it because the content I could do to make money was varied and there was no particular time limit on when I needed to get it done.

My post is not about capes; it is about +1 armor. It was other posters who expressed confusion at stopping short of 2 capes with full augments every month (even though the capes aren't going anywhere and grinding to +1 legs still gets you 3 full capes every two months), because We All Must Have Everything As Quickly As We Possibly Can, of course.

[scaevola]

Did i miss the memo on how Gallantry will work? How is getting the points via Gallantry over Hallmarks supposed to be any less of a grind?

I can only assume that saving the Gallantry you get from grinding your Hallmarks in a given month will be enough to get literally one piece of gear, the +1 body, which is what I'm proposing.

If it isn't, well, that would be a pretty pointless addition to Ambuscade.

[Modoru]

I think it's not really arguing about the ambuscade grind, more like people can't figure out why someone won't do 15k hallmarks in a month?

to which the answer seems to be because he doesn't feel like it, but that's apparently not good enough of an answer, I don't know.

[NynJa]

So your entire argument of "fuck the grind" is a baseless assumption

Lol
I wonder how you enjoyed the scenery in the ~300 arrapago remnants necessary for the 30k alex to get a mythic?

[scaevola]

So your entire argument of "fuck the grind" is a baseless assumption

I don't see how that follows. I said from the start that my problem was that Ambuscade was boring when done repetitively; since gil is fungible complaining about alexandrite is like complaining about playing the game at all. If I could buy hallmarks with sparks or something that'd be different, not that I'm suggesting such a thing.

Ambuscade is fine as it is. 8500 or so a month is where it really starts to wear out its welcome, for me, at least.

I wonder how you enjoyed the scenery in the ~300 arrapago remnants necessary for the 30k alex to get a mythic?

It was alright, because fortunately, there are other ways to make money, and I was able to use those to get the money necessary to buy Alexandrite when I got bored with Salvage.

Crazy, I know.

[NynJa]

Ok, once again. 13k hallmarks is 44 VD dragons. You have about 30 days before the marks reset. Doing Ambuscade a paltry twice per day will net you 18k hm. Going TWICE per day will get you two capes, and a couple riftcinders and heavy metals by the time its reset.

[Mojo]

I think it's not really arguing about the ambuscade grind, more like people can't figure out why someone won't do 15k hallmarks in a month?

to which the answer seems to be because he doesn't feel like it, but that's apparently not good enough of an answer, I don't know.

It's less that and more the implication that the Ambuscade grind is hard or even taxing. It took a few hours a day over a few days (even with retarded congestion.) It's extremely casual and easily the best grind vs reward ratio in recent memory.

[NynJa]

The hardest part of ambuscade is getting in, or making sure the dragon doesnt breath all your trusts before you even set up positionally.

[scaevola]

Ok, once again. 13k hallmarks is 44 VD dragons. You have about 30 days before the marks reset. Doing Ambuscade a paltry twice per day will net you 18k hm. Going TWICE per day will get you two capes, and a couple riftcinders and heavy metals by the time its reset.

This will blow your mind, but I don't play every day, and if I did, I doubt I would want to get a group together to just do Ambuscade a couple times before allowing myself to do the stuff I actually feel like doing.

It's extremely casual and easily the best grind vs reward ratio in recent memory.

All the more reason not to stress about it!

[Modoru]

It's less that and more the implication that the Ambuscade grind is hard or even taxing. It took a few hours a day over a few days (even with retarded congestion.) It's extremely casual and easily the best grind vs reward ratio in recent memory.

Definitely. I just stopped doing it because I can't form a group on Siren (and because I don't have a job capable of soloing it currently).

[NynJa]

This will blow your mind, but I don't play every day, and if I did, I doubt I would want to get a group together to just do Ambuscade a couple times before allowing myself to do the stuff I actually feel like doing.



All the more reason not to stress about it!

A group of 6 humans can clear VD in 2-3 min lol. in an hour, you could probably knock out 5 or 6 VD dragons without much hassle. Thats 4 saturdays and 4 sundays. An hour is less time than people do CP grinding sessions for.

Youre just making excuses...unless youre sayin you dont have any friends?

[scaevola]

I don't have friends that can do VD reliably, no, and certainly not quickly enough to make it worthwhile. Many of them were blown away when I said I solo D with Trusts.

I don't really get what's got you so hot about this? Like, have you been committing to this thread for the whole afternoon to find the right opening to tell me I'm bad, or that I am insufficiently committed to noted video game Final Fantasy XI?

[NynJa]

So the problem is that YOU cant do the event as efficiently as others, therefor the event sucks?

Like mojo said, its one of the best effort:reward ratio XI as ever offered. Salvage, since the daily removal, was the best, giving you ~110 Alex per hour, and it was roughly 10k each, giving you about 1.1 mil / hour. Today, thats now worth about 600k, since Alex dropped. In 1 hour, a good (not great, not elite, but good) group of 6 humans can probably do 7 VD dragons, netting 2100 HM. Its tough to establish a base value of HM, since the rewards have caps on how many you can get per month. But knowing that it takes 106500 HM to cap out on Riftcinder, HPB, HMP, Riftdross, Beitetsu and Alex (the top 6 best HM/Gil conversions), and that 106500 HM is 355 runs on VD (thats a lot), it seems safe to be able to average only their gil/HM ratios to get a rough gil value per hallmark. No ones gonna turn in 50k HM for an Umbral Marrow worth 1.5m when you can turn in that same 50k HM for 3 riftcinders (3.6 mil), 750 HPBayld (15 mil) and 96 HMP (10.5 mil), unless they're either retarded, or just have a LOT of HM.

Riftcinder is 800 gil/hm, HPBayld is 571 gil/hm, HMP is 550 gil/hm, Riftdross is 367 gil/hm, Beitetsu is 340 gil/hm and Alex is 333 gil/hm (Carby prices). Comparing Alex value from Salvage to Ambuscade, since its pretty easy to compare that, you'll get approx 110 alex per hour in Salvage (not counting double runs from storing an extra tag before a a new game day), and your 2100 HM will net you 140 alex. Already Ambuscade is shaping up to be better. If you can only do VD 5 runs per hour, giving you 1500 HM, that converts to 100 Alex. So you're a bit worse off, and yet Alex is the 6th most productive use for your HM.