Dev Tracker: Discussion

[Kainstryder]

Use Barfire, it seems to negate the MP sap or at least lessens it severely. Our WHM stands in range and just spams Curaga and never loses MP or at least it their MP is always pretty high. Been spamming VD with RUN BLU BLU WHM GEO COR with little problems in 5-6 minutes. Once the boss is dead, the adds are pretty easy to handle. If you do it on VD, one add is a BST that can charm, so kill him last. On D and I'm guessing below, the BST isn't there; it's a RNG WAR MNK I believe.

[Kanriel]

So next month we have:

Mamool Ja Intense Ambuscade
Gnole Regular Ambuscade
AA Trusts
Omega/Ultima Master trial

Please look forward to it.

[Sechs]

And no new gear, but lovely tickets to get old gear, while they decide on which gear to release next, hopefully for the october month onwards.
Think I might still do Ambuscade in September to get the 20 Dyes, to get 4th augment on 2 more capes.
Plus I think I want to create 2 additional secondary capes for my jobs.

Who starts to think he won't resist with "just" this until march 2017? Not 100% sure I'm gonna keep playing from october onwards, we'll see.
Not that anybody should care wether I'm gonna keep playing or not, I'm just curious to see how do other old time players feel about the current situation for the next few months.

[Kanriel]

I still have a couple aeonics I'd like to get, with no LS to currently farm them, so on a project to create one. I'm nearly finished everything else in the game though, so I'm sure it's mostly waiting for a game that can take the free time out of my hands.

[Guitarman]

Very interested in the potential of the AA trusts. And curious if they'll be login campaign points or rewards from the battles.

[Destinye]

And no new gear, but lovely tickets to get old gear, while they decide on which gear to release next, hopefully for the october month onwards.
Think I might still do Ambuscade in September to get the 20 Dyes, to get 4th augment on 2 more capes.
Plus I think I want to create 2 additional secondary capes for my jobs.

Who starts to think he won't resist with "just" this until march 2017? Not 100% sure I'm gonna keep playing from october onwards, we'll see.
Not that anybody should care wether I'm gonna keep playing or not, I'm just curious to see how do other old time players feel about the current situation for the next few months.

My feeling is they're probably "all hands on deck" again for the next FFXIV expansion since it's pretty obvious SE isn't and won't give the XI team the resources they need to really do much.

Very interested in the potential of the AA trusts. And curious if they'll be login campaign points or rewards from the battles.

Likely from battles if they retain any very specific mechanics. Otherwise I could see them being the focus of the login campaign next month.

[Bail]

And no new gear, but lovely tickets to get old gear, while they decide on which gear to release next, hopefully for the october month onwards.
Think I might still do Ambuscade in September to get the 20 Dyes, to get 4th augment on 2 more capes.
Plus I think I want to create 2 additional secondary capes for my jobs.

Who starts to think he won't resist with "just" this until march 2017? Not 100% sure I'm gonna keep playing from october onwards, we'll see.
Not that anybody should care wether I'm gonna keep playing or not, I'm just curious to see how do other old time players feel about the current situation for the next few months.

I missed the first months ambuscade, so I'm happy to be able to go back and get the 119 Ares armor. After that i'm not too sure what I'll do. I just changed shifts at work, so my playtime will open up quite a bit, but I've been having trouble finding linkshells on Asura that fit the spot I'm in. I've always had a goal of completing a mythic so I might just chip away at that.

[Trumpy]

So next month we have:

Mamool Ja Intense Ambuscade
Gnole Regular Ambuscade
AA Trusts
Omega/Ultima Master trial

Please look forward to it.

I'm sorry where did you see Mamool Ja for intense and Omega Ultima Masters? A friend had told me they thot we were gettin AA master trials, though it would make sense its AA Trusts. But I dont see any info anywhere other than we were gettin a new master trial and then that we know there will be an intense ambuscade. Did I miss something?

[Kanriel]

I'm sorry where did you see Mamool Ja for intense and Omega Ultima Masters? A friend had told me they thot we were gettin AA master trials, though it would make sense its AA Trusts. But I dont see any info anywhere other than we were gettin a new master trial and then that we know there will be an intense ambuscade. Did I miss something?

I have a friend who works for SE. Can not trust it all you want, I am confident in my source.

And you're right that there really aren't resources being given to FFXI right now. But the people left are focused on making the game the best they can. I know there has been discussion about master trial rewards systems, but think it's mostly the NA-side saying it's an issue and JP-side isn't bothered by it.

[Destinye]

Yep, since I don't know as I wasn't "raised" in NA culture, but I'm guessing a lot of NA players really dislike doing something challenging for "just the challenge of it" comparatively to the JP. Like yeah, doing all that for a glamor item or just title..yeah I can see why people would want more, but I know a lot of JP players don't mind it since it's actually something to do.

If SE gave the XI team the amount of (even limited resources) they give the XIV folks, I'm sure they'd gladly do a lot more lol since as said, the client still has at least 3 slots for some kind of expansion, rather it's an expansion like zilart/cop/etc or mini add on like crystalline/abyssea and so on.

[errantfish]

I see several people wondering where the AA trusts will come from, but the very blurb SE put up says:

"Those interested in more alter egos will also be pleased with the addition of a new quest to flesh out their repertoire."

So they will be quested.

[arus2001]

Yep, since I don't know as I wasn't "raised" in NA culture, but I'm guessing a lot of NA players really dislike doing something challenging for "just the challenge of it" comparatively to the JP. Like yeah, doing all that for a glamor item or just title..yeah I can see why people would want more, but I know a lot of JP players don't mind it since it's actually something to do.

Honestly, it tends to run counter to the whole raid culture that's developed over the past decade. No doubt you'll have people who think Master Trials should be doling out the best gear in the game, with the eventual side effect of nobody wanting to do anything with anyone if they don't have said gear. The sooner people get over that, though, the sooner "just for the challenge" might become more accepted. Not that XI is really the best vehicle for that kind of genre shift.

[Mojo]

I like the idea of master trials. I find it depressing that mentality is prevalent in FFXI. I don't think the difficulty is so high that they can't be won, people just give up on them right away. NA FFXI culture is way too pessimistic in general. It's like with Aeonics. People saw one testimonial of Zerde and said it was going to be impossible until it was patched. It turns out it's an incredibly easy fight when the right countermeasures are taken. It's been months since Black and White was introduced and NA players are largely uninterested.

[NynJa]

Well you have to consider the fact that it costs 500 stored merits to enter. How much are those merits worth in gil when you factor all the merit fights they can do?

[arus2001]

To be fair, XI has other infrastructure issues that hamstring ideas like this, too. But those fall into the Ye Olde Server Merge debate and related fixes/design choices. Getting the right people geared is part of the problem, yes. The right people being around when you want to try is the rest of it. That just isn't happening on 300 peak pop servers where half are AFKers.

[Mojo]

That's not a valid comparison as you need to do high tier battlefields and sell the items you get. It takes maybe 10 minutes to cap merits at Reisenjima #2. The cost to enter is only 250, not 500. It's an absurdly easy entrance requirement. The merit cost is not the reason NA players have little interest in the fights.

[Viar]

Well you have to consider the fact that it costs 500 stored merits to enter. How much are those merits worth in gil when you factor all the merit fights they can do?

Unless you multi box for VD BC these merits are useless without campaign anyways. I have 75 merit almost always capped just by doing cp pt, kill NM, do ambuscade. No one is ever interest in VD BC unless campaign is active so I can't spend these merits on BC. Even if I want to use those merit for VD BC I can't do them unless friends wants to go, and they don't.

I may as well store all these merits for master trials instead of letting them rot.

[NynJa]

Meant to edit this one, not quote it.

[NynJa]

You dont multibox? Lol theres your problem.

Merit campaign gives an extra drop slot. Maybe for you its not worth it, but for me 3boxing, the difference is about 100 REM items per fight with and without the campaign, presuming avg distribution from boxes/crates.

Edit: not even 100. Id get about 600 over 5 fights (120/fight) and about 900 (180/fight) when campaign is active. Its nice w campaign up, but youre making it sound like it increases output exponentially.

The cost to enter is only 250, not 500.

Odin/Alex was 500. I must have skimmed over that part of the notes, because I dont care for master trials that grant a lv1 cosmetic item, my bad

[Draylo]

Actually the merit cost is 100% the reason nobody does it. Who the hell wants to farm merits anyways when you have to constantly go back to the goblin to put them in. That's my reason for not doing it at least, I want the sword for lockstyle but I'm too lazy to farm merits like that.