Dev Tracker: Discussion

[dasva]

oh lordy. Chocobo digging RoE. Crafting specific items eminence. Oowie zoowie

[Kyte]

Other things:
* They're adding a 117 Animator/Sachet in March? I thought Eminent shit was already 117?

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...t_Animator.jpg

The sachet and animators aren't

[Tarage]

Not quite sure I understand why they are even bothering. For example, the only difference between the 115 and 119 versions of the SMN sachet is the level and 2 more -BP Delay II. Having one more -BP Delay II isn't going to do much of anything. I don't know why they are wasting their time.

To be honest I'd rather have a sidegrade to the 119. Maybe with something that augments avatar attack or something.

[dasva]

The same reason there are ilvl things for pets in the first place.... they are probably "wasting" there time in order to give people who don't do DM2 the ability to get pets higher than higher level.

I mean by that logic why do we have any eminence gear? We already had delve and skirmish. Screw next best for people not doing the hardest most current content!

[Tarage]

I understand that, it just seems like it's not even worth it to make a jump that small.

[Kyte]

I'm pretty sure people were quite happy to upgrade from 113 to 115, even if you discount the -BPII. You're also under the assumption that it's actually hard and time consuming to make an item that is a simple upgrade over another.

[Tarage]

Possibly. I guess I'm just getting tired of midgrades.

[dasva]

Possibly. I guess I'm just getting tired of midgrades.

Understandable but I think that's why they are doing both. Release a clear large upgrade that is more difficult to get for the people that want that and can. Then release something that's easier to get that will be an upgrade from the 2nd best so the people who can't keep absolutely current have something and don't feel bad but not quite the best so you give people a reason to do the newest harder content. They are just trying to satisfy more people

[NynJa]

Having one more -BP Delay II isn't going to do much of anything.

So going from 42s BP recast to 41s BP recast is nothing? I guess going from 30% haste to 31.6% haste is nothing either.

[Kincard]

those two stats arn't even remotely comparable in usefulness

it would've been more appropriate to compare BP recast with snapshot, even that's a little more useful because it's easier to use tools to make you autoshoot

[Byrthnoth]

I think there might be a post about pet accuracy food. Looks like it is not making it into this update maybe?

[Mutih]

So they're fixing the CoP doors that you have to get through....once? The hell, fix the doors in Eldieme.

[Sechs]

So they're fixing the CoP doors that you have to get through....once? The hell, fix the doors in Eldieme.

^!

I think it's coming though.
Hope they're gonna do something about ENMs too! Like uncap them.
I want my fuckin Paeon V! >.>

[pancakesandsex]

^!

I think it's coming though.
Hope they're gonna do something about ENMs too! Like uncap them.
I want my fuckin Paeon V! >.>

Those would probably be good candidates for revamped difficulty versions.

[TummieGaruda]

Not quite sure I understand why they are even bothering. For example, the only difference between the 115 and 119 versions of the SMN sachet is the level and 2 more -BP Delay II. Having one more -BP Delay II isn't going to do much of anything. I don't know why they are wasting their time.

To be honest I'd rather have a sidegrade to the 119. Maybe with something that augments avatar attack or something.

SE is simply filling in the ilvl gaps that are in the game. The 117 version is an upgrade over the 115 and is a great option for those who can't get the 119 or are working towards it. And while 2-3 seconds off BP delay may not seem like much, it breaks the longstanding 45 seconds BP delay cap which is what most SMN's have been wanting to see.

[Tarage]

SE is simply filling in the ilvl gaps that are in the game. The 117 version is an upgrade over the 115 and is a great option for those who can't get the 119 or are working towards it. And while 2-3 seconds off BP delay may not seem like much, it breaks the longstanding 45 seconds BP delay cap which is what most SMN's have been wanting to see.

And I understand that. I just don't see the reason to insert one more sachet in between two existing ones. You aren't going to notice 1 second. If the 119 version didn't exist I'd be all for this.

I'd rather have a sidegrade to the 119 version that a new one that is already obsolete.

[Darkmagi]

Realize that the 119 is out of reach to a lot of people, getting an easy 2 level upgrade is not a bad thing. Stop complaining.

[Anomie]

He's not really complaining, well sort of.

It'd be better to have 2 119's (or ways to obtain the single 119) than a 113 115 117 119 is all.

I mean do we really want them to go back and make 112 114 116 118. cause that's kind of what you're saying, "It's one ilvl better OMG I NEED IT"...

At what point do you finally realize it's fucking retarded and stop advocating those sort of things.

It's not a privilege to have 119 gear, it's a requirement, based on the games own current method of play, providing lack of 119 and making (literal instant junk) is a waste of programmer time.

Am I one of the only people that really grasps this concept?

[scaevola]

He's not really complaining, well sort of.

It'd be better to have 2 119's (or ways to obtain the single 119) than a 113 115 117 119 is all.

I mean do we really want them to go back and make 112 114 116 118. cause that's kind of what you're saying, "It's one ilvl better OMG I NEED IT"...

At what point do you finally realize it's fucking retarded and stop advocating those sort of things.

It's not a privilege to have 119 gear, it's a requirement, based on the games own current method of play, providing lack of 119 and making (literal instant junk) is a waste of programmer time.

Am I one of the only people that really grasps this concept?

Someone could plausibly say that while 119 is a totally reachable goal for any player, it's still just restricted enough to create a need for sub-119 gear. But once Skirmish 3 comes out in a week and a half and gives 119, yeah, anything else is pointless.

[Hitou]

What they should do is make the eminent sachet/animator 117 and be done with it. Not fill in the gap since they pointlessly made them 115 instead of 117 like the rest of eminent gear.