DISCUSSION: 11/04/2013 Version Update

[Snprphnx]

Scratch that. All NMs in delve drop them, as well as in the new seal fights

[mdkuser]

Morrimar delve NM x5, 6 man:

matamata, raptor, turtle and peiste droped 1 pluto (for relic upgrade). Eft droped one pouch of 9 riftborn boulders (empyrean upgrade).

[Malithar]

Didn't see any new tinctures in the .dat list and I haven't been to Kamihr Drifts yet, but I've got a Survey assignment from Scouts. Did they just not add the tinctures, or did they goof and there's no Ergon Lotus'?

[Kyreth]

It's not that there's a reive in the way from morimar and marjami; there's a one-way drop. The only way to the new area is through Yorcia.

Well, that's gonna be interesting. Ragnarok is so behind that Yorica Bivouac #3 doesn't even exist anymore, so people will have to colonize it like mad to let folks supply that, so we can actually teleport someplace near. Or did we get lucky and they put the zonein somewhere more accessed?

[Maurauc]

Didn't see any new tinctures in the .dat list and I haven't been to Kamihr Drifts yet, but I've got a Survey assignment from Scouts. Did they just not add the tinctures, or did they goof and there's no Ergon Lotus'?

There's tinctures. Five of them: http://bg-wiki.com/bg/November_2013_...s#Usable_Items

[urat]

So just a question, wouldn't most relic weapons "occasionally deals double/triple" damage effects put them all way ahead DPS wise over the 119 delve boss weapons?

Or am I missing something?

[zephr]

Just did a run in Morimar

Shimmering Tarichuk - Pluton Case (11)
Perdurable Raptor - Beitetsu (1)
Volatile Matamata - Riftborn Boulder (1)
Tutewehiwehi - Beitetsu (1)
Kurma - Pluton (1)
Tojil - Pluton (1)

[Vriska]

Are HMP still 1500 in light of WoE weapon changes?

[zephr]

Yes.

[Lyramion]

only nifty monk item ive seen
Quiahuiz Leggings
DEF:100 HP+37 STR+25 VIT+14 AGI+17 INT+26 MND+21 CHR+9 Attack+25 Evasion+30 Magic Evasion+60 "Magic Def. Bonus"+4 Haste+6% Increases "Double Attack" damage

I think AF hands are good WS piece now ?

[Kincard]

Oy vey SE.

No words to describe.

[Toth]

The way the artifact NPC is worded and coded, it does appear there are planning relic armor next.

[Malithar]

There's tinctures. Five of them: http://bg-wiki.com/bg/November_2013_...s#Usable_Items

Weird, refreshed the page before I posted and usable items was still blank. Thanks much though. :D Wonder how rare those cases of RME upgrade mats are, and just how many come from it.

[Kyreth]

The way the artifact NPC is worded and coded, it does appear there are planning relic armor next.

Hmm. So what, they'll put in relic as 115 and likely Aby armor at 119 or whatever top-tierish or nearish the final tier of Adoulin gear gets, you speculate?

[NynJa]

I dont know why people are complaining that the RME upgrades are a time sink. People were crying how they finished delve content within a month.

The only disconcerting thing I see so far being Tojil only dropping one, instead of a guaranteed pouch.

[Kyreth]

I dont know why people are complaining that the RME upgrades are a time sink. People were crying how they finished delve content within a month.

The only disconcerting thing I see so far being Tojil only dropping one, instead of a guaranteed pouch.

I'm wondering how many you'll be able to get by sharding the NM's instead of Delve, since I-IV are often six-mannable options.

[JSHidaka]

I dont know why people are complaining that the RME upgrades are a time sink. People were crying how they finished delve content within a month.

The only disconcerting thing I see so far being Tojil only dropping one, instead of a guaranteed pouch.

and should drop something like "linen's Pounch" 50-99 -_- ...

[Tymon]

People are complaining because it drops to the damn loot pool instead of functioning as a currency or something every player can get like Voidwatch.

If it takes 300 Plutons and you gave every one of them to a single player every run, they would get their weapon done in 50 runs. Sound realistic? No? Damn right it doesn't. You won't be seeing updated weapons on this system for weeks. I'm sure some hardcore people out there are going to decide that one person in their group deserves every piece of upgrade material that drops and do 50 runs in 2 days because they're ~*~hardcore~*~ but for the rest of us, it's just retarded.

[Kincard]

I dont know why people are complaining that the RME upgrades are a time sink. People were crying how they finished delve content within a month.

The only disconcerting thing I see so far being Tojil only dropping one, instead of a guaranteed pouch.

you're right, i'm so glad they removed the monotony of running delve over and over by making us run delve a couple hundred more times so i can upgrade my weapon to run delve a couple hundred more times to upgrade another weapon

[Draylo]

Except that was exactly what people were bitching for in the first place. "Oh I beat the game in a week, so boring" Yet you are playing FFXIV right? You just spam AK don't you? People are never pleased lol.