DISCUSSION: 11/04/2013 Version Update

[Aramaic]

Did you have COme Full Circle still active in Aht Quest Lines?

[urat]

you have any idea how many 99 Relics there are around? not to mention the empys and mythics (while less there are still some around). This system isnt gonna work. especially not for the relics. its retarded. The system would be ok if you could exchange plasm for said items. (i didnt check but noone mentioned it was possible). besides alot of people are allready tired of delve.

we went back to fucking shitland... This isnt a reasonable upgrade like they promised, its utter garbage.

6 NMs in a delve boss run, people reporting most of the time getting items from the NMs, at least 1.

That means you are getting generally 6/300, or 2% of an upgrade per delve run overall.

Killing 3-4 qilins back in the day took about the same amount of time, and the group of 18 would on average get about 4 bags of HMPs over the 3-4 kills, which would net about 30-40 HMPs, which is also about 2% of an upgrade.

In other words, it takes literally the exact same time investment to get this upgrade as 1500 HMPs takes. About 50 runs (1 run of voidwatch being 4ish kills)

Or, in other words, about 50-60 hours of effort. Not for any particular person, but to add 100% of an upgrade's worth of items into the market.

Which means I think its safe to say we'll see these stones in bazaars for 100-200K each all over the place and everyone can stop whining.

[Fival]

Did you have COme Full Circle still active in Aht Quest Lines?

When i logged in earlier the NPC wouldnt give me the dialogue till i finished Come full circle, and to finish that i had to go to the palace, and examine the door without any weapon on. Then i had to go to that crazy mithra's place. After that the quest ended and the NPC gave me the dialogue in port jeuno to upgrade conquerer.

[Aramaic]

Ok I will give that a try. Also GM responded to me in game for what its worth and said it has been reported by a lot of palyers and passed onb to dev team.

[noodles355]

Once again...people were complaining how they finished delve within a month, how they have "millions of plasm with nothing to spend it on", so SE takes more of a timesink approach, and people are upset that they cant use their shinies on day one.

Actually, the view is: why pour all this energy into a stupid timesink for a sidegrade to what I have or what I could get for much less effort/cost?

[Aramaic]

Thanks Fival. Your plan has succeeded, had to talk to door without weapon on.

[Aramaic]

Ryunohige quest flagged thanks for all responses. Have to clear Come Full Circle- I was missing the part where i checked the door without a weapon equipped. Than Naja's Minion. So anyone else having trouble try that and see if it works.

[Aramaic]

Also the Gm I was talking to ingame is going to have that same info posted on official forums soon so people can try to clear out active quest, Gave Fival Credit. Thanks again.

[noodles355]

In other words, it takes literally the exact same time investment to get this upgrade as 1500 HMPs takes.

Except that HMP investment results in a weapon largely superior than the next non-RME easily obtainable option. This investment results in a sidegrade or only slightly superior weapon depending on the ws associated with it. Not comparable imo.

[pancakesandsex]

Quest tracker updated.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...nc&usp=sharing

Steal away.

[Lyramion]

Any way to get Earmuffs with windower on? My game doesnt even start without windower lol

[Kincard]

Except that HMP investment results in a weapon largely superior than the next non-RME easily obtainable option. This investment results in a sidegrade or only slightly superior weapon depending on the ws associated with it. Not comparable imo.

To be fair the relic balance is now closer to what it used to be I suppose, in the past you would need to have an entire LS farm Dynamis a year to get one guy a weapon that didn't increase his DPS a significant amount at all (given that ODT was like 5% or whatever, ymmv based on which weapon though). Of course back then most just funneled their LS funds into shields and horns.

[Julian]

Christ quit your bitching lol. You wanted to use plasm to exchange for these items so you could sit in town crying and go back to XIV? What the hell did you expect?

This is the FF11 forum, not the FF14 forum, keep shit like this out of here.

[Draylo]

This is the FF11 forum, not the FF14 forum, keep shit like this out of here.

wat? It relates to FFXI, you can replace "FFXIV" with anything.

[Ranth]

Since I don't see a thread to discuss the new SP2 specifically, I'll post this here. Fly High doesn't allow for no recast Jump (as was on test server) as some may have thought due to the description being sort of wonky. It just reduces the recast time to 10 seconds like they said in the revised developer post.

[dasva]

See but part of this is some of these aren't much better than delve boss weapons. So you have to go thru the effort of kilking delve boss anyways which implies you can or already have their weapons then make you relic and upgrade to 99. Then do enough farm delve so much that you have the plasm to be able to buy every delve item including all the weapons?

[Snprphnx]

where is the Bismuth Arrow/Bolt/Bullets on the list? were they missed?

[Doofus]

where is the Bismuth Arrow/Bolt/Bullets on the list? were they missed?

I would like to know this as well, perhaps someone could make some and just post the stats? they arent in the dats

[JSHidaka]

any idea how to upgrade the bayld gear?

nvm... just buy them lol..

[Treize Kordero]

any idea how to upgrade the bayld gear?

nvm... just buy them lol..

Yeah they are already available at the Scouter's Coalition. Camaraderie weapons are available as well.