AF Upgrades

[pancakesandsex]

Do the new bcnms give different content levels at different difficulties? If so could someone post them?

[NynJa]

They dont list content levels.

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[gaira]

mistakenly pulled the smn first in very difficult kindred spirits, it proceeded to wipe everyone (except the pld supertanking the other mobs) for 4k+ astral flow with sacrosanctity up. would recommend fighting him last if anyone tries it.

[Sechs]

Did Kindred Spirits on Normal and Hard yesterday.
Setup was:
PLD (Abyssea lol)
BRD
2x MNK
WHM
SCH

Normal was a Joke, used Minu5+Marchx2 as songs. (Marcato March2)
Astral Flow from the SMN (killed last) still did quite a lot of damage, we were all in red after he used it in spite of augmented ShellraV and super-barspell.
Nobody died of course and the demons were falling down pretty fast.

Hard was very doable and nothing off-limits for what I'd define an average pt, but you could clearly see a big jump forward compared to normal. Used the same songs (Marcato Minu5), but DDs claimed they started having some mild acc issues.
Monsters were falling down much slower in spite of the SCH who used Embrava.
Astral Flow killed the SCH and the WHM (we didn't use Sacrosanctity) and BRD was the only one who remained alive of the mages. I assume all 3 had SS up but BRD was Galka, maybe that's why he survived.
With a RUN you could probably laugh at Astral Flow, but I'm not sure if you can justify bringing a RUN.
If Hard>VHard has a difficulty jump of the same lenghts as Normal>Hard then I can confirm what other people have been reporting, it's definitely not gonna be something to be underestimated.

Also, if I can say, I'm not sure what the SCH was doing other than some accession buffs and obviously Embrava on hard, but I'm not sure if SCH is that useful at least on normal and hard. Another DD would have probably produced better results?
I could see it being very useful for VeryHard, but you're not gonna be able to kill all of them before Embrava runs out, so I dunno really

[mdkuser]

Did "Steamed Sprouts" on very hard mode (mandragora x7 @ Balga's dais).

Not especially evasive, white mandies have quite low HP. They droped kasiri belt , a single and a pouch of 10 pluton.

[dasva]

Do you think it might be possible to tribox these with a brd, whm for support and idk pld for the dd/tanking on normal? Don't really have other options on the support and the brd is super gimp but can change the melee some. Or maybe 3 bsts? Also is there some kind of consolidation of the new drops?

[Fival]

Are these BCs on wiki anywhere yet? Or could someone point me in the direction of which BC drops hand upgrade items assuming its not all of them?

Edit: nvm, someone pointed out its on the update page, any information on Demolition Squad or Brothers D'Aurphe would be appreciated though!

[ChronicCettness]

As a strong recommendation for people attempting Kindred's spirit's on Very Hard setting, to avoid death from Astral flow keep in mind Sentinel's Scherzo with a Ghorn and proper skill will mitigate 45% of damage received. Barblizzara will also assist you in survival as well as phalanx, stoneskin, and possibly rampart from your paladin. Since it should be the last enemy to be targeted, take the time to prepare for it. Our first win only lost the Taru's.... which happened to be bard sch and cor.. (sch and cor also missed scherzo) .. but the DD's survived and had embrava up to regen their HP while mages reraised up. :D good luck!

[NynJa]

Is the avatar always Shiva?

[ChronicCettness]

Is the avatar always Shiva?

I'm not going to say yes, but I've done the bc 6 times now on various difficulties, and 100% of those times it was Shiva.

Even if it wasn't you have a 1/6 chance of any barspell helping you.

[Ophannus]

Better to spend 100 Login points on 1 Sacred Seal or spend 10 login points on Beastmen Seals and then wait for the December patch to trade 3BS:1SKS? Currently you can buy 10BS for the price of 1SKC

[ChronicCettness]

Better to spend 100 Login points on 1 Sacred Seal or spend 10 login points on Beastmen Seals and then wait for the December patch to trade 3BS:1SKS? Currently you can buy 10BS for the price of 1SKC

Pretty sure they decided that for now there will be no trade in for those seals. (Don't expect it in the december update is all i'm saying)

[Darkmagi]

@scherzo, stack with earthen armor and there should be virtually no risk of getting killed by it. If you can fit a SMN in anyways.

[ChronicCettness]

@scherzo, stack with earthen armor and there should be virtually no risk of getting killed by it. If you can fit a SMN in anyways.

Uggh I had a decent response typed up but I lost it. Anyhow, bringing a SMN is a tough idea to sell to most people. Should you aim to fit one in, I'd recommend pairing it with a GEO + BRD. Maintain Hastega/earthen ARmor, and beyond that Focus on support cures + -na's on your DD. With Scherzo + EA combo the only threat to your DD as far as severe damage.. is Quadrastrike... Which Third eye can block. (Ideally). Geo's Mending Halation can provide a potent aoe cure should it be needed, and can also attempt to back up cure when they aren't putting up new bubbles or attempting to enfeeble. Bard, they do their things and could honestly keep busy between ballading geo + smn, ballading + minne'ing pld, and mad x2 + march x1 + scherzo on DD , Can Soul voice at the start to make the lack of x2 march more favorable. Its a far fetched idea to most who just see SMN as a shock squal whore If people would manage to pull off this set up I'd be pleasantly surprised. However you'd better at least know your shit if you do.

[Ophannus]

Can you make it possible to exchange seals with Shemo to receive Sacred Kindred’s crests?
When giving consideration to the conditions after implementation and also to the amount of seals below High Kindred’s crests in circulation, we had expected instanced areas to experience congestion and decided not to implement this in the recent update.

We will be addressing this in a future version update.
We plan on keeping the exchange rate and rules as they are.

The last statement "We plan on keeping the exchange rate and rules as they are" implies the 3:1 ratio.

[guyonthecouch]

Been spamming SKC BCs, finally found Zuuxowu Grip. Drops from Divine Punishers.

Done Kindred Spirits, Divine Punishers & Amphibian Assault, all normal mode bc we didn't have a pld. For these 3 you can go 4xMNK, Rdm/blm (sleepga) and WHM. Super easy to sleep and pick off one by one.

[NynJa]

Been spamming SKC BCs, finally found Zuuxowu Grip. Drops from Divine Punishers.

Done Kindred Spirits, Divine Punishers & Amphibian Assault, all normal mode bc we didn't have a pld. For these 3 you can go 4xMNK, Rdm/blm (sleepga) and WHM. Super easy to sleep and pick off one by one.

You got the drop from Normal?

[guyonthecouch]

Yup, got it on 'Normal' mode

[dasva]

iirc they said the difficulty would only effect the quanity/chance of drops but the type drops would be the same

[Warusha]

What armor slot does divine punishers give for AF?