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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    GRATS BYRD
    Woohoo! I'm so happy, it's like signing Chone Figgins and Richie Sexson at the same time, but for twice as long!

    Since Nintendo bought them, the Mariners have always had more money than sense. This certainly shows that things haven't changed.

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    he's still a perennial .900 OPS guy playing 2B. yeah the contract will be horrible in 5 years but who cares if they have the money to spend

    he shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Chone Figgins and Richie Sexson

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    its baseball. the end of the day, they GOT HIM. that contract is not going to stay the same in 10 years any more than flacco's stays the way it is in 5 years over in the NFL.

    good for the mariners. might as well make moves. someone had to take him and at least the mariners have a few existing pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moss View Post
    he shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Chone Figgins and Richie Sexson
    Those players were highly celebrated signings who came to Seattle and lost their bats (so was Adrian Beltre, actually, although he found his again after leaving). Yes, Cano is a bigger deal than any of those three signings, but until he shows he can actually hit in Seattle, the skepticism is going to follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrd View Post
    Those players were highly celebrated signings who came to Seattle and lost their bats (so was Adrian Beltre, actually, although he found his again after leaving). Yes, Cano is a bigger deal than any of those three signings, but until he shows he can actually hit in Seattle, the skepticism is going to follow.
    i think you can calm down just a little bit dude, hes gonna be fine. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrd View Post
    Those players were highly celebrated signings who came to Seattle and lost their bats (so was Adrian Beltre, actually, although he found his again after leaving). Yes, Cano is a bigger deal than any of those three signings, but until he shows he can actually hit in Seattle, the skepticism is going to follow.
    I think that reflects poorly on the Mariners more than anything if Chone Figgins is "highly celebrated." Sexson had two good years with the M's before tailing off.

    Still neither is anywhere near the same caliber player as Cano.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xajii View Post
    i think you can calm down just a little bit dude, hes gonna be fine. lol
    The Pujols signing was a bad one, but people still expected at least a few good years.

    How'd that one go?

    Or Carl Crawford?

    Basically these big deals never work, so one can never expect too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    The Pujols signing was a bad one, but people still expected at least a few good years.

    How'd that one go?

    Or Carl Crawford?

    Basically these big deals never work, so one can never expect too much.
    A Rod
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    Beltran to some extent

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    They can work if you give them when the player is in their mid 20s to skip their arbitration and lock up their prime.

    Who wouldn't give Mike Trout a 13-year $400 mil contract right now if they had the chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    The Pujols signing was a bad one, but people still expected at least a few good years.

    How'd that one go?

    Or Carl Crawford?

    Basically these big deals never work, so one can never expect too much.
    That discussion has come up a few times, the "how many 10 year" or "how many 200-300mil" deals actually end up working out or being worth it.

    I'm happy the Yankees didn't overpay Cano like they normally would have done, there was a good 70mil difference between the offers. He wanted the most he could get and he got it, good for him. I was kinda happy as a Yankee fan thinking about how they'd use that 200mil they saved, especially with the biggest names off the market already, but then the news hit that Granderson is gone. I hate everything now. As happy as I was about Ichiro coming to NY, I'm as sad about Curtis leaving. I've gone to more Yankee games since those 2 were picked up than any other point in my life and its a rough day for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xajii View Post
    A Rod
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    your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    That discussion has come up a few times, the "how many 10 year" or "how many 200-300mil" deals actually end up working out or being worth it.

    I'm happy the Yankees didn't overpay Cano like they normally would have done, there was a good 70mil difference between the offers. He wanted the most he could get and he got it, good for him. I was kinda happy as a Yankee fan thinking about how they'd use that 200mil they saved, especially with the biggest names off the market already, but then the news hit that Granderson is gone. I hate everything now. As happy as I was about Ichiro coming to NY, I'm as sad about Curtis leaving. I've gone to more Yankee games since those 2 were picked up than any other point in my life and its a rough day for me.
    It's kinda weird. The Yankees almost seem like all the flac they get for their spending ways finally got to them so they decided to be more frugal... by letting their best players walk. You locked up Kuroda, which is good, but Jeter alone isn't going to carry an old Ichiro, shitty Tex, and a bunch of fuck-ups to the playoffs, not to mention CC's getting older and Girardi kind of sucks at his job

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    I think it was Rhinox archi or tyche that had a decent breakdown of several ridiculous contract players and whether they worked out or not and actually proved several to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xajii View Post
    It's kinda weird. The Yankees almost seem like all the flac they get for their spending ways finally got to them so they decided to be more frugal... by letting their best players walk. You locked up Kuroda, which is good, but Jeter alone isn't going to carry an old Ichiro, shitty Tex, and a bunch of fuck-ups to the playoffs, not to mention CC's getting older and Girardi kind of sucks at his job
    I think the plan is to transfer over as many red sox as possible and see if it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    Cheated
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    your point?
    whether or not they cheated has no bearing on the correlation between contract and performance... Hamilton's a cheat and he still blows, it works both ways

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    Just saw on social media a guy arguing that athletes make too much and military don't make shit for risking their lives. The counter was that people like LeBron are 1 in 7 billion and servicemen are not, and the dude replied that all professional athletes should be required to serve time in the military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    Just saw on social media a guy arguing that athletes make too much and military don't make shit for risking their lives. The counter was that people like LeBron are 1 in 7 billion and servicemen are not, and the dude replied that all professional athletes should be required to serve time in the military.
    As someone who's favorite soccer team lost their striker to required military service this year (이근호... come back ㅠㅠ), I can confirm that dude for retarded.

    Also, I think the Yankees did the right thing letting Cano walk. It's not like they'll have trouble finding a serviceable 2B to overpay for a little while. Certainly won't be a Cano-level 2B, but not Mark Bellhorn either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viq View Post
    As someone who's favorite soccer team lost their striker to required military service this year (이근호... come back ㅠㅠ), I can confirm that dude for retarded.

    Also, I think the Yankees did the right thing letting Cano walk. It's not like they'll have trouble finding a serviceable 2B to overpay for a little while. Certainly won't be a Cano-level 2B, but not Mark Bellhorn either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    Just saw on social media a guy arguing that athletes make too much and military don't make shit for risking their lives. The counter was that people like LeBron are 1 in 7 billion and servicemen are not, and the dude replied that all professional athletes should be required to serve time in the military.
    I see that same argument all the time in facebook. Had one friend even say that no one should make more than 50k. Ron Paul influence everyone.....

    Also expect the yankee's to make a run at Hanley Ramirez next year if his legs don't explode or dodgers lock him up long term.

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    As a Yankee fan, I'm happy the Yankees didn't budge on their years and money offers for Cano but sad to see him go. The problem Seattle will have is if they don't get other hitters to accompany Cano, it'll be a waste.

    Also Seattle fans be prepared to be annoyed by his lack of running out ground balls or balls he think will be caught.

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