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    I loved this season, I thought Punisher, Matt, Electra, and Karen all had great arch. If I had to complain about something it would be that the villains did not live up to all the doom and gloom for me.

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    Everyone talking about the stairwell fight in Episode 3, but I thought the prison fight was the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor View Post
    Everyone talking about the stairwell fight in Episode 3, but I thought the prison fight was the best.
    You only sayin that because the prison fight was Punisher while the stairwell fight was DD.
    You just started a war.
    Team Pun or Team DD?!?!?

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    More on team stop ending shit on weird cliffhangers marvel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo View Post
    Episode 10 spoiler:

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    Was the guy at the airplane hanger suppose to be Frenchie?
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    the name doesn't match up but it could have been changed but there is also a second option with a name close to the given one. Swordsman, the guy who trained Hawkeye in the comics.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Insanecyclone View Post
    More on team stop ending shit on weird cliffhangers marvel
    I'm on team more weird cliffhangers. Everything should have a weird cliffhanger and ninjas and Jon Bernthal.

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    Finished. Really enjoyed Punisher. Didn't care for Elektra, at all. Best scene in the entire season--both seasons, actually--in my opinion was:
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    Matt visiting Kingpin in prison, the verbal chess turned fists turned back to mental chess. TENSE.

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    Yeah that was fantastic scene.

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    Finished it; thoughts.

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    Stairwell scene;
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    Frank's prison fight scene;
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    Matt and Kingpin's chess match;
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    Frank's spraypaint skull costume:


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    Halfway through it. I fucking love this show.

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    Rewatching quite a few eps, man some of the editing/production staff really try to go out their way to ruin the experience. Feels like DBZ eps from the nineties where you'd blatantly have the A team for some episodes and the D team for others.

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    You have the brain farts of Daredevil taking his helmet on and off with the no balaclava instant balaclava, the lighting constantly changing contrasts at random points even within the middle of a scene, and audio flat out changing levels lol.

    Hope they can streamline some of this stuff for S3.


    Story-wise I have another question.

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    What exactly happened in Kandahar with Castle and his unit? Is it ever explained in or even similar to the comics? I kind of expected Frank's old CO to be revealed as the Blacksmith, you don't get to O6 in any service without being a shady douche. Or at the very least it's heavily insinuated he's either him or working alongside him. But what and why the hatred towards Frank would've been a nice explanation.

    I think it was in this thread someone posted they're going to wait and gauge the reaction to Punisher before giving him his own series right? So I'm guessing that's possibly the reason why the information was withheld. Hell the more I think about it I probably just answered my own question while posting this. One of the final scenes between Frank and Karen where she threatens if he kills Schoonover he's dead to her, to which his reply "I'm already dead." Perfect segue way and separation from Daredevil for a stand alone series.


    I'm loving these Marvel Netflix originals. Even if they're separate, the nods to each others existence is a cool fan service lol.

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    Just to add with the Team DD vs Team Pun bit. Not trying to start nonsense just my opinion.

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    I'm pretty sure most individuals holding the stairwell fight scene to a higher degree is because it was an absolute creative one or two take maybe masterpiece. Never seen anything like it. While the prison fight scene with Shane was amazing but it was obviously inspired over several takes with Oldboy and even funny enough Daredevils own hallway scene to save the kid in S1. One is more fluid than the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xno Kappa
    Story-wise I have another question.

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    What exactly happened in Kandahar with Castle and his unit? Is it ever explained in or even similar to the comics? I kind of expected Frank's old CO to be revealed as the Blacksmith, you don't get to O6 in any service without being a shady douche. Or at the very least it's heavily insinuated he's either him or working alongside him. But what and why the hatred towards Frank would've been a nice explanation.

    I think it was in this thread someone posted they're going to wait and gauge the reaction to Punisher before giving him his own series right? So I'm guessing that's possibly the reason why the information was withheld. Hell the more I think about it I probably just answered my own question while posting this. One of the final scenes between Frank and Karen where she threatens if he kills Schoonover he's dead to her, to which his reply "I'm already dead." Perfect segue way and separation from Daredevil for a stand alone series.

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    They may go into more detail in a Punisher series as you suggested, but I believe the implication was that the Kandahar op was off the books, and that the Colonel/Blacksmith's supply of pure heroin was being brought in directly from the Middle East.

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    Kandahar (and it's suburbs) and Helmand are where you grow poppy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xno Kappa View Post
    Just to add with the Team DD vs Team Pun bit. Not trying to start nonsense just my opinion.

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    I'm pretty sure most individuals holding the stairwell fight scene to a higher degree is because it was an absolute creative one or two take maybe masterpiece. Never seen anything like it. While the prison fight scene with Shane was amazing but it was obviously inspired over several takes with Oldboy and even funny enough Daredevils own hallway scene to save the kid in S1. One is more fluid than the other.
    The stairwell fight was alot more then one or two takes. There are quite a few obvious cuts during the scene,and they weren't even really trying to mask them either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor View Post
    The stairwell fight was alot more then one or two takes. There are quite a few obvious cuts during the scene,and they weren't even really trying to mask them either.
    That's what I was gonna say too. There's clearly splices of several takes. It's not like Oldboy where it's one continuous take. Oldboy broke the ground on that. That's not to say that DD didn't do the style justice. It was awesome.

    As for Punisher/Blacksmith relationship
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    I think it's safe to assume that there probably happened some sort of village massacre to which Frank was a witness too and refused to participate. Hence where his strong belief in not killing innocent people is coming from. Meaning he already had this moral compass embedded in his psyche before he even became the Punisher. With that said, his CO probably knew he couldn't leave Frank well alone even if he didn't say or report anything and this is why he probably organized the meet up in the park where Frank and his family would hang out. Furthermore, he was probably the one who began shooting to get the ball rolling and even more interesting, probably the one who put the bullet in Frank's head.

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    Point being was that the stairwell fight was a lot more impressive than the prison fight. It's stupid to argue who liked what better but it's obvious one was more invested by the production team than the other. Again, stupid argument I should've never brought up as both scenes are bad ass.

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    Just finished episode 3, and thank god for the stairwell fight scene because so far this season has been a snoozefest. Really hope it picks up but so far the majority of each episode is just so...boring. The focus on Foggy is annoying because he really isn't that interesting, and any scene that spends the time following him just falls flat for me.

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    It felt like every scene involving Karen was her either on the verge of tears in fear of her life or on the verge of orgasm from being in Matt's presence, with nothing inbetween.

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