Exploit nonsense

**Rocl** · 2013-11-08 04:43

On one hand I go "how the fuck does this happen" on the other hand I'm pleasantly surprised by the amount of time it took them to act.

fukkin stockholm

**Burningthought** · 2013-11-08 04:43

Originally Posted by Edelweiss

Well, hopefully at least people who did get mugged by the RMT have everything made right in a short period of time, since they clearly know about the problem and it likely hasn't been going on for much more than a day or so.

Edit: On the plus side, if they can bust the RMT banks again, that'd be decent compensation for this whole thing. Gil prices were getting close to 24-25 dollars again on Midgard so soon after the latest STF sweep.

Edit 2: It's Leddit, but whatever: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...ver_rollbacks/

Pretty awesome that they're pursuing them through legal means.

**Edelweiss** · 2013-11-08 04:51

Not sure how widespread it was (in actual occurences), but on the NA/EU side it seems like muh Midgardsormr happens to have a lot of the self-reported occurances of this exploit.

I've heard Ridill pretty much had people turning Central Shroud/Central Thanalan/Middle La Noscea/Mor Dhona into fucking refugee camps. lol

**Celeras** · 2013-11-08 04:53

Man, just when you think this game couldn't be a bigger punchline. Fucking gift that keeps on giving rofl

**Kurp** · 2013-11-08 05:09

Originally Posted by Burningthought

Pretty awesome that they're pursuing them through legal means.

Pursuing legal action against probable chinese gold farmers. Good luck with that.

**Edelweiss** · 2013-11-08 05:13

Originally Posted by Kurp

Pursuing legal action against probable chinese gold farmers. Good luck with that.

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/11/06...tasy-xis-peak/

Square Enix plans to expand Final Fantasy XIV further by bringing the game to mainland China.

Might be just coincidence, but I think not. They do have a China subsidiary/arm based on their corporate site (http://www.square-enix.net.cn/), so there's probably something substantive actually happening here.

**Taruranto** · 2013-11-08 05:19

I think SE should try consider hiring the RTM to re-code the game for them or something. They clearly more adept than the current guys.

**Hyan** · 2013-11-08 05:20

Originally Posted by Rocl

On one hand I go "how the fuck does this happen" on the other hand I'm pleasantly surprised by the amount of time it took them to act.

fukkin stockholm

Eh, even with all the exploits they seem to be in control anyway. Good material for the haters but in reality that's all it is (for now).

**Sephiroth** · 2013-11-08 05:24

Not all gil sellers are from China. I had a gold selling company based in the US offering advertising on my site once. I turned them down for obvious reasons.

I can see why people store their gil on their retainers now, going to put mine on when I login tonight.

**Darkstar** · 2013-11-08 05:55

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Not all gil sellers are from China. I had a gold selling company based in the US offering advertising on my site once. I turned them down for obvious reasons.

I can see why people store their gil on their retainers now, going to put mine on when I login tonight.

Yea never really thought about it, but good thing I was logged off the whole time! Only gonna log in when it's totally safe!

**Edelweiss** · 2013-11-08 06:03

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Not all gil sellers are from China. I had a gold selling company based in the US offering advertising on my site once. I turned them down for obvious reasons.

I can see why people store their gil on their retainers now, going to put mine on when I login tonight.

Still the most likely culprits, considering our old friends from BroGame and the like have already long since reared their heads in-game. If it's huehuehues or MUH FREEDUMs though that'd be new for XI, let alone XIV.

**Classikmage** · 2013-11-08 06:04

This had to have been a gold mine for RMT against people who buy gil, lol. Person buys like 5M gil, RMT come back next day and force them to buy an item for 5M.

RMT: "Oh hey, I heard you spent that 5M already, would you like to buy 5M more?" *evil grin*

Originally Posted by Darkstar

Yea never really thought about it, but good thing I was logged off the whole time! Only gonna log in when it's totally safe!

Same here, lol. I had just logged for the night, since i had to be up early, and hour later my friend was spamming me messages on FB about it. XD

**Kincard** · 2013-11-08 07:05

RMT companies are often based in the US and they hire chinese farmers/in-game advertisers since like every other business they know you can treat Chinese people like shit and get away with it.

IIRC the previous packet hax was mostly being done by legitimate players who then sold the gil to the RMT. RMT often make MMO currency the old fashioned way unless there's a really obvious/widely-known way of haxing the game.

Originally Posted by Burningthought

Pretty awesome that they're pursuing them through legal means.

I feel it's just PR stuff, wtf would they actually do especially if people are right about the perpetrators being Chinaman RMTs?

**dejet** · 2013-11-08 07:17

Originally Posted by Rocl

JOKES ON YOU I'M POOR

Are you implying only RMT use bots

not to say its RMT only but i saw 5~6 people who had names of 4 letters(2 for both parts of their names) and just tele hacking. There might of been more but that was the ones I could see the names of. I shouted in the zone with their names and POS so people could report. and told all the mining people around me via tells. Funny part out of the 4 other's I sent tells to, only one person answered me back with "ya could not see their names, thanks ill report" rest did not even answer me. So ass, its not RMT only doing this. On the plus side, im scared to think what shards would cost if we did not have the bots...

**Edelweiss** · 2013-11-08 07:29

Originally Posted by dejet

not to say its RMT only but i saw 5~6 people who had names of 4 letters(2 for both parts of their names) and just tele hacking. There might of been more but that was the ones I could see the names of. I shouted in the zone with their names and POS so people could report. and told all the mining people around me via tells. Funny part out of the 4 other's I sent tells to, only one person answered me back with "ya could not see their names, thanks ill report" rest did not even answer me. So ass, its not RMT only doing this. On the plus side, im scared to think what shards would cost if we did not have the bots...

Just because they didn't respond to you doesn't mean they're bots or something.

I disregard 90% of tells from random chucklefucks about this because I don't fucking care, as i've already done a search to get the bot's full name and reported them. In fact, the chat spam from people (meaning well) who sound the alarm in shout the entire time they're DoLing in the zone is probably even more annoying than some under-terrain position hacking bot.

**Grieverbk** · 2013-11-08 07:43

Originally Posted by ronin sparthos

Man, this game has some serious security problems. Are RMT still teleporting between nodes unchecked?

Yes, but now they're teleporting under the ground to try and remain unseen.
Their name plaque still appears though.
If anything it's even more obvious.

**Frein** · 2013-11-08 07:47

Wow, this hack is really something unique. It's pretty crazy how easily the game is compromised.

Originally Posted by Kincard

RMT companies are often based in the US and they hire chinese farmers/in-game advertisers since like every other business they know you can treat Chinese people like shit and get away with it.

Do you honestly think they would take/keep the job if they thought they were being "treated like shit"? Would you?

**Rocl** · 2013-11-08 07:48

Originally Posted by Grieverbk

Yes, but now they're teleporting under the ground to try and remain unseen.
Their name plaque still appears though.
If anything it's even more obvious.

I don't know if I'd say "now" as this this sort of teleport-bot-gathering has been going on for a while:
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/117...=1#post5904590

**Kincard** · 2013-11-08 07:51

Originally Posted by Frein

Do you honestly think they would take/keep the job if they thought they were being "treated like shit"? Would you?

lol wut

I mean I don't really want to derail the thread with what could be considered a politics discussion, but do you know anything about China at all?

(I don't mean they're treated like shit in comparison to jobs they could otherwise get btw, I assumed that much was apparent)

**Edelweiss** · 2013-11-08 08:32

Seems like the best place to notify, but servers are up according to the Lodestone. Actually, they went up at 7 Eastern, so i'm slow as fuck here.

Also to assuage any lingering worries: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...44ed6710551152

This is a notification about the countermeasures that will be taken for players who were affected by the Market security issue reported from earlier.

For players who were affected, we will notify you through Email Address 1 that is registered on you Square Enix Account after the maintenance have been completed.
After the Email is sent, a Game Master will correspond within the game. Until then, you will be able to play the game as usual. If in any case, our players are logged out when the Game Master corresponds, they will attempt again at a later time.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your patience.

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