Letter from the Producer LIVE Part X (11/11/2013)

[Spider-Dan]

Why do you need to remove myth from non DR? It's about giving people options. They could do a better DR system AND let people just do it from the dungeons on their own if they so choose. Nobody fucking suggested removing it from non DR content.

Could have also removed myth from actual dungeons and only reward it for completing the roulette (which is what Warcraft does).

Did you even read the post?

[solracht]

Why do you need to remove myth from non DR? It's about giving people options. They could do a better DR system AND let people just do it from the dungeons on their own if they so choose. Nobody fucking suggested removing it from non DR content.

He mentioned myth rewards from the roulette would have to be ridiculous to beat spamming WP and I mentioned they could just move all myth rewards to the roulette (no myth rewards from actual dungeons).

I was just trying to point out that making the roulette the best way for tomes is really not that hard (if that's what they wanted to do).

[Tyrath]

Well you don't need to take away options in order to have the best way to do it. If you can't beat SR WPs, fuck it. If you can do it in slightly more time but have it be more fun, who cares. Let those people who wanna SR do that and everyone else can DR. Too bad the DR system isn't good enough to even be competitive.

[Therin]

Let's just cut out the middle man and make the game give you a blowjob immediately as soon as you log on.

[Spider-Dan]

Well you don't need to take away options in order to have the best way to do it. If you can't beat SR WPs, fuck it. If you can do it in slightly more time but have it be more fun, who cares. Let those people who wanna SR do that and everyone else can DR. Too bad the DR system isn't good enough to even be competitive.

The people who are complaining about DR are almost exclusively those who can currently spam SR WPs.

If you thought that DR was going to be a substitute for 10min WP spamming then I don't know what to tell you. The only way that could possibly happen is to lengthen the minimum WP run to somewhere in the 25min range.

[Tyrath]

The people who are complaining about DR are almost exclusively those who can currently spam SR WPs.

If you thought that DR was going to be a substitute for 10-15min WP spamming then I don't know what to tell you. The only way that could possibly happen is to lengthen the minimum WP run to somewhere in the 25min range.

Thats not what I said. I said it needs to be competitive. It doesn't have to beat SR WP, but it needs to be able to be fast enough that people would choose to do it because its more fun. If it takes 3-4x the time that SR WP does, nobody is going to want to do it past the first week or two.

[ronin sparthos]

Let's just cut out the middle man and make the game give you a blowjob immediately as soon as you log on.

That's what the game is trying to do for solo/casual players.

Just set that DF/R and forget it.

[Therin]

I'm not even sure why 10-15 minute SRs are even a thing anymore. Even a casual run through WP with friends can be done in about 18-20 minutes, killing every single mob. You can finish your entire 150 mythstones that you CURRENTLY (since people didn't see that word last time) need in an evening. If it's that annoying or boring, load up a podcast, audio book, ventrilo, or turn it into a drinking game. Take a shot every time someone gets stabbed by the Stalker or takes a 5 stack Grudge.

That's what I meant about the blowjob comment. You can already complete an entire week's worth of endgaming in less than 3 hours in FFXIV (1 hour for Coil, 2 hours for finishing your mythstones), so if you want it to be even EASIER, you're fucking delusional.

A better complaint would be about how you have nothing else to do for five or six days of the week. THAT would be understandable.

[Kipling]

Maybe we can fudge the duty finder into pairing up with your fc by queueing at exactly the same time? Me and some friends used to do this for battlegrounds cross server on TERA and it worked like half the time.

Might not be 100%, but better than nothing.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Maybe we can fudge the duty finder into pairing up with your fc by queueing at exactly the same time? Me and some friends used to do this for battlegrounds cross server on TERA and it worked like half the time.

Might not be 100%, but better than nothing.

Might work assuming group A gets, say, ticket#29 and B gets #30. 50/50 shot at least?

Course that assumes SE doesn't use some arbitrary sorting feature for their matchmaking.

[Thiefami]

A ton of bad decisions all around, but a lot of them linger from the poorly thoughtout rerelease. 2.1 pretty much affirms that they simply do not get it. Why add content of lower tier than the highest out now? I mean.. no consideration that even the hardest content is a week lockout for 8/15 minute bcnms. The majority of people who are playing, seriously playing and will continue to sub, are at least at Titan by now. So this makes absolutely no sense.


They fucked up with the poorly managed mythology/allagan armor acquisition, with battle stats in general, with dungeon hierarchy and lack of open world events, lack of FC content. They truly fucked up so much.. its just unbelievable lol. I believe it'll take a year of patches to make a decent full time mmo. I play only a couple hours every few days and still I have ran out of things to do. Keeping it all the way real, at times I really want to log in on the weekends but we complete our binding coil runs within a couple hours in two nights and theres simply nothing to do. For them to not add an alliance option on much lower ilevel raid when most people are damn near rocking full ilv90 from mythology on their main is beyond retarded. Adding more 4 man dungeons at this point when the game is literally thirsting for content is also stupid.

More primal battles are a joke, not because of their difficulty but their length. I consider most of the primal battles missed opportunities. It's content could have stretched if rewards were ala ffxi with a weapon/accessories. They could have made the beast strongholds worth a damn and instanced those, added interesting mechanics and attached the primal summoning battle at the end. Primal armor could have been it's very own gear progression, but this goes back to the butchering of battle stats.

I just do not understand most of their decisions. I feel like they have more than enough to build from, but they consistently fuck it up with decisions that make absolutely no sense.

[BerenTebogo]

We have no details on Extreme whatsoever, how can you even begin to comment?

Ex. Titan could take 30 minutes and have a bunch of giant mini-boss kobolds during some phases and shit.

[Obsidian]

MNK adjustments sound good. I wish they would've gone into more detail for all the balancing they're planning on doing though.

[Khalil]

MNK adjustments sound good. I wish they would've gone into more detail for all the balancing they're planning on doing though.

I just hope they have actual end-game players testing these changes or like-wise competent players.

[Thiefami]

We have no details on Extreme whatsoever, how can you even begin to comment?

Ex. Titan could take 30 minutes and have a bunch of giant mini-boss kobolds during some phases and shit.

just as you have. It could be a 5~15minute battle even with "mini boss kobolds during some phases and shit." I'm not just randomly saying shit but basing it on what they've done before.

[Evane]

Why are people crying about CT? Don't they read/watch live letters ever? It's been known that CT is a gap filler. Now on the other hand the people that are, somewhat justifiably angry about the pre-DF alliance forming, you already have multiple 8 man coil groups. I guess you gotta bear with it for your vanity gears.

Just a heads up for the future, this game is built for the new to MMO people. Yoshi said on multiple occasions that people quit because they don't have friends and/or unable to make new ones. So don't get your hopes up and make assumptions and plans based on some news of new content to come. I've accepted this fact and treated the game as a "play on the go" game and I'm happy.

[Gokulo]

[Carth]

Why are people crying about CT? Don't they read/watch live letters ever? It's been known that CT is a gap filler. Now on the other hand the people that are, somewhat justifiably angry about the pre-DF alliance forming, you already have multiple 8 man coil groups. I guess you gotta bear with it for your vanity gears.

I personally question the ilvl55 requirement when the reward is ilvl80 and there's no weekly reset. Just feels like a really huge jump. Then again we jump from Darklight to Myth/Allagan so whatever I guess.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Watching, as I edit (mostly just noting videos and stuff not explicit in the OF Q&A thing)

Crystal Tower stuff: ~1:12ish - Can see alliance window on top (HP bars), mentions they're still on for 2.2/2.3 alternating Coil/CT additions.

1:30ish, mentions item sort is ready and there will be commands for further sorting?

2.1 Patch "title": A Realm Awoken

1:55, small clip of a moogle fight + music. Leviathan in 2.2?

2:02:30, shows some artwork (Leviathan shield, spear?, bow?, framed paintings of the 3 GC leaders, axe)

2:06, shows DF stuff, talks about content roulette, tome reward shown on right side for w/e category, "if you join as a missing job you'll get bonus reward"?

2:16:44, MIP (most impressive player) stuff shown onscreen
2:19, MIP achievements (and associated gear), mentions again that you can only vote or be MIP if you join DF as solo

2:26 Pharos Sirius

2:41 more artwork (carbuncle clock <3, tonberryking couch)

2:44, 30s clip of Garuda extreme (some kind of plume needle rain and 3x aerial blast)

2:46:10, Ifrit Extreme (ton of nails)

2:49:45, Titan Extreme + Hard Ultima (does 1 more Geocrush, 2 mini-Titans [office nickname "potatos"], triple landslide, double gaol, and a charge-up stomp that knocks everyone off if it goes off) (HM Ultima drops double airships)

[Spider-Dan]

I personally question the ilvl55 requirement when the reward is ilvl80 and there's no weekly reset. Just feels like a really huge jump.

AK/WP require ~iLVL50 (maybe lower) and the rewards are essentially i70 (yeah, the drops are i55-60, but AK/WP are effectively the primary mechanism to get your i70).
Coil requires ~i70 and gives i90.
Seems fine.