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  1. #1241
    Ridill
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    I had no idea Miasma II was a wide, ranged AoE that also binds.

    I should really take another look at the description.

  2. #1242
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    why would bind matter
    or are we confused by saying "bind" instead of heavy+100% rendering monsters immobile

    also the douchebag in the snow haircut (that's about as far as i got) saying WE'D NEVER TREAT YOU THAT WAY ON MY SERVER makes me think he's trying to get that epussy

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    I'm sorry, I can't stop thinking of someone flaring a Renaud...

  4. #1244
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    I pretty much disable my Circle of Scorn macro in T7 because of giants.

  5. #1245
    Nidhogg
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    Not OF (but probably just as bad, or worse), but lol: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...on_first_shot/

    Reddit circlejerking over how kicking people for low DPS should be bannable.

  6. #1246
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterBob View Post
    Not OF (but probably just as bad, or worse), but lol: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...on_first_shot/

    Reddit circlejerking over how kicking people for low DPS should be bannable.
    Christ.

    Just imagine that OP's "with ease" doesn't actually mean the fight was easy, and for people used to farming it that it was an awful attempt. Awful as in no phases pushed, every shield barely being enough, stuff like that. Now yeah, they might have parsed, top DPS being 300, and then OP, or second highest at like 150. I'd kick them too for higher dps to make the rest of the farming smoother. People who don't like that people do this just need to learn how to play better so they don't get kicked in the future. And for the butt hurt bad players who can't play well and always have low DPS that want all the people who parse banned, I use excuses like, whole party was disbanded, or cat is on fire, had to leave, when people ask why they were kicked.
    That stands at -69, while this is at +39.

    People like you can you please leave this game. Final Fantasy is not for you.
    This angers me.

    I don't wanna make fun of you because you might actually have autism.
    How dare someone expect people to have a fucking clue?

    Edit: It reads a lot smoother if you read every whining post as "BUT IT'S MY 12.95" because that's all that's happening here.

  7. #1247
    Bagel
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    +66 to the comment saying to report for parsing.

  8. #1248
    BG's most likeable Québécois
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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  9. #1249
    WASTE OF CURRENCY
    I CAN'T I CAN'T I CAN'T

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    I was the world first American ginger, born in May to clear T9 with my monitor off the entire time.

    Prove me wrong.

  10. #1250
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    Tanks have an awful lot of power in dungeons. I've been having the same issue. I may end up starting a dungeon with "You claim it, you tank it". If they claim stuff, kindly tell them to stop. If they blow me off, I refuse to take the mobs off them. Remember: (no one wants to hear this, but it's true) DPS are expendable, Tanks and healers aren't. You will have no issues finding a replacement DPS if they continue to harass you like that.
    Bad tanks justify being bad.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-threat-aggro

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    Terrible. "If they harass you" lol.

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    Same thread. I can no longer see the line between satire and seriousness.

    Holding mobs and mitigating damage is only one part of being a successful tank. The other part (and arguably equally important) is keeping the DPS obedient and submissive. Always make sure you take a moment to establish dominance before the first pull whenever you're partying with DPS that you don't know. Otherwise, you risk running into problems where they'll start doing things on their own. When dominance is successfully established they'll let you lead, make all the pulls, and focus-fire on your marked targets. This really needs to be written into all the tanking guides too, but I can understand why people would be hesitant to include it.
    My biggest problem when it comes to this are the healers who keep healing the problematic damage-dealers. Most of the time I ask them not to heal the damage-dealers when they do that, and to let them die, they reply with something like, "ugh, can we just get through this dungeon?" and keep on healing. At that point I just tell them they need to find another tank, and leave the duty.

  13. #1253
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    Holding mobs and mitigating damage is only one part of being a successful tank. The other part (and arguably equally important) is keeping the DPS obedient and submissive. Always make sure you take a moment to establish dominance before the first pull whenever you're partying with DPS that you don't know. Otherwise, you risk running into problems where they'll start doing things on their own.
    oh my god lol

  14. #1254
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    That's fantastic.

  15. #1255
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterBob View Post
    Not OF (but probably just as bad, or worse), but lol: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...on_first_shot/

    Reddit circlejerking over how kicking people for low DPS should be bannable.
    Oh man, I was in this PT yesterday. The leader kept booting perfectly serviceable DPS - no slip-offs, no deaths - because his parser told him to. The ironic thing was we were clearing Levi in <10m and it took 10m to find replacements after every round.

    I don't think the dude even wanted a mirror. Think he was just being a dick.

  16. #1256
    CoP Dynamis
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    Holding mobs and mitigating damage is only one part of being a successful tank. The other part (and arguably equally important) is keeping the DPS obedient and submissive. Always make sure you take a moment to establish dominance before the first pull whenever you're partying with DPS that you don't know. Otherwise, you risk running into problems where they'll start doing things on their own. When dominance is successfully established they'll let you lead, make all the pulls, and focus-fire on your marked targets. This really needs to be written into all the tanking guides too, but I can understand why people would be hesitant to include it.
    I really want troll the OF and post that tanks are only there to serve as meat shields for the DPS, that they should be made to work like the inferior dogs/servants/slaves they are for the benefit of the superior DPS race classes, that any tank that can't hold hate off a Raging Striked, quadri-Flaring BLM is an unforgivable drain on the community and deserves to die in a fire, etc.

    But I won't, because I'm lazy and lunch hour is short.

  17. #1257
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    Holding mobs and mitigating damage is only one part of being a successful tank. The other part (and arguably equally important) is keeping the DPS obedient and submissive. Always make sure you take a moment to establish dominance before the first pull whenever you're partying with DPS that you don't know. Otherwise, you risk running into problems where they'll start doing things on their own. When dominance is successfully established they'll let you lead, make all the pulls, and focus-fire on your marked targets. This really needs to be written into all the tanking guides too, but I can understand why people would be hesitant to include it.
    Saw this yesterday and said to myself "Interesting phrasing" which is more like "what the fuck is this shit?"

  18. #1258
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    Saw this yesterday and said to myself "Interesting phrasing" which is more like "what the fuck is this shit?"
    Whoosh!

  19. #1259
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    olding mobs and mitigating damage is only one part of being a successful tank. The other part (and arguably equally important) is keeping the DPS obedient and submissive. Always make sure you take a moment to establish dominance before the first pull whenever you're partying with DPS that you don't know. Otherwise, you risk running into problems where they'll start doing things on their own. When dominance is successfully established they'll let you lead, make all the pulls, and focus-fire on your marked targets. This really needs to be written into all the tanking guides too, but I can understand why people would be hesitant to include it.
    So pro. I'd love to see that person tank something more serious than low lvl dungeons.

  20. #1260
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    yeah, that shit is a troll attempt especially considering the thread that spawned the comment

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