Fallout 4 (PC/PS4/XB1) | VR (Vive)

[Churchill]

It's not a first person shooter period. You never actually have to use a gun at any point, or manually aim, or even play in first person. You could attempt to play it like a FPS if you so choose but why not just go play Call of Duty or something instead?

I guess Ocarina of Time is a first person shooter because you have a bow and can go into first person view and shoot things

Are you this upset because you're wrong, or are you this upset because someone doesn't agree with you.

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Fallout 3's shooting system was 'meh'

Bethesda looked to Bungie's sci-fi shooter Destiny when it was designing Fallout 4's gunplay.

In an interview with Game Informer (via GameSpot), the development team looked to Destiny not just because of its gameplay reputation, but also because, like Fallout 4, it runs at 30fps.

"The main difference in the way we develop [and other studios] is that we will develop with as many knobs as possible," said Fallout 4 director Todd Howard.

"We're always thinking of scale. We're not a team that is just going to make eight guns and spend forever on one gun. We knew we were going to have thousands, so we needed to develop a gun system that had all of the dials."

Acknowledging that Fallout 3's shooting system was "meh", Howard said that as a first-person shooter, the game needs to be "a really, really good one".

"We started out with Fallout 4 knowing that, look, we can't apologize for being a role-playing game," he added. "We have to build a first-person shooter, and it needs to be a really, really good one. We spent a lot of time on that."

Fallout 4 is out on November 10 across PC, Xbox One, and PlayStation 4.

[kisada]

The density is alarming

[vivbiibasjiu]

Are you this upset because you're wrong, or are you this upset because someone doesn't agree with you.

Neither? It's objectively not a first person shooter, you can't disagree with a fact lol. It's an open-world action role-playing game. Having guns does not a first person shooter make.

[kisada]

doesn't sound like he's the one who is disagreeing with fact

[Krandor]

Woe is anyone who argues with Church. He rarely goes about the arguments the right way, but he's also very rarely wrong.

Fallout 4 is absolutely a shooter, albeit one with effectively zero skill barrier involved.

[Charismatic]

He rarely goes about the arguments the right way, but he's also very rarely wrong.

God damn, it feels good to be a card-carrying member of this club. I wish you could feel this feeling.

[Tyrath]

It's almost like the game has multiple different ways you can play it.

[Zetanio]

It's almost like the game has multiple different ways you can play it.

Nah, it's an FPS dawg.

[vivbiibasjiu]

If we're using loose enough definitions to classify Fallout 4 as a FPS, then by that logic all games are RPGs because in every game you play a role. Like Pacman for example, you're role playing as a yellow circle that eats dots and ghosts!

[Krandor]

Stahp

[Zetanio]

If we're using loose enough definitions to classify Fallout 4 as a FPS, then by that logic all games are RPGs because in every game you play a role. Like Pacman for example, you're role playing as a yellow circle that eats dots and ghosts!

Nah dawg. That's an FPS too.

[Anoat]

I find myself doing more FPS style play because VATS is so inaccurate, at least in comparison to how I played FO3 and NV which was almost strictly all VATS.

[vivbiibasjiu]

I find myself doing more FPS style play because VATS is so inaccurate, at least in comparison to how I played FO3 and NV which was almost strictly all VATS.

If VATS isn't working for you, you're not investing in the right perks or stats. The baseline is less accurate than starting in Fallout 3 but if you buff it up it's even more ridiculously OP than in 3. Especially with crit stuff since you can't even crit outside of VATS. Not to mention any VATS shot has a damage bonus regardless

[Anoat]

This is correct, I have no perks in VATS. Just too many other stuff I wanted to get first @.@

[Tyrath]

Each his own but I use VATS pretty much anytime it's available. Gotta love them crits.

[Shadowhusky]

I'm not sure what the hell is going on. But FO4 is an FPS with (extremely) light RPG elements. IE: Borderlands.

[Rizil]

Just found a short hunting rifle with double damage to targets at full health. Immediately mod to sniper rifle build. Feeling pretty sexy.

[Tyrath]

Oh man I keep forgetting to take mods off weapons and put them on my shit.

[Grey Jorildyn]

If VATS isn't working for you, you're not investing in the right perks or stats. The baseline is less accurate than starting in Fallout 3 but if you buff it up it's even more ridiculously OP than in 3. Especially with crit stuff since you can't even crit outside of VATS. Not to mention any VATS shot has a damage bonus regardless

Not entirely accurate. You can crit outside of VATS with sneak attacks. Believe they start at 2x damage.

[Tyrath]

Not entirely accurate. You can crit outside of VATS with sneak attacks. Believe they start at 2x damage.

Those aren't crits though, those are sneak attacks. Crit is a different attack bonus entirely and can only be built up with VATS.