Tree of Savior (spiritual successor to Ragnarok Online)

[Kachiko]

I don't get how anyone survives any bosses, post 140. I've 11k HP, as a wizard (100 Con) and field bosses fart in my general direction and I die. They need to tone that shit way down.

LMAO.....

So, you do a bunch of quests, and get 5 necklaces, that increase one stat by 10 each. They go into a collection which gives you a gigantic bonus of +1 fsking Int.

Also, why is Demon prision so little exp, compared to Cathedral exp? I didn't think there was an exp penalty for killing higher level mobs.

[Charismatic]

I don't get how anyone survives any bosses, post 140. I've 11k HP, as a wizard (100 Con) and field bosses fart in my general direction and I die. They need to tone that shit way down.

LMAO.....

So, you do a bunch of quests, and get 5 necklaces, that increase one stat by 10 each. They go into a collection which gives you a gigantic bonus of +1 fsking Int.

Also, why is Demon prision so little exp, compared to Cathedral exp? I didn't think there was an exp penalty for killing higher level mobs.

I think there is a penalty starting at +/-5 levels.
As far as survival goes, evasion or plate and also Wiz getting the worst HP growth from CON probably means just about everyone else is more tanky (unless you're also wearing plate, which you could also do)

[Gulkeeva]

Yup.. you gonna need a good plate set + Lv50 plate to survive That and your attacks do enough to kill it before it touches you...

and yeah its kind of weird how things same lvl as you that hits say 500, at +1 lvl probably hits like 800, +2 levels like 1,500 by +3 2,000+ and by +5 levels hits you for like 90% your hp... (especially magic attacks even with Lv50 magic resistance cloth)

[Teknique]

When does OBt start? I want to play this shit already
And is it too late to get into the CBT?

[Kachiko]

When does OBt start? I want to play this shit already
And is it too late to get into the CBT?

Don't know if anyone is getting into CBT anymore, but you wouldn't be able to see much, with the time left; basically, it it's a lot of fun, but they have some major issues: some of their servers are shit (party/instance servers and auto channel scaling), as is their patching/QA process, and they have no idea how to properly progress a character, through their content. There's also some serious balance issues, between the classes, and just about all aspects of monster scaling (exp to damage done), past lvl 130ish. That's not even touching the client side file issue, that's going to make this game the 'hacker's' paradise KRMO's usually are.

As for OBT, the Korean one is at the end of the year, and maybe the International one will be in the Spring, after CBT3, if they have one, but there's no official announcement. KTOS open beta isn't currently set to be IP blocked, and we're waiting to see if you'll need a Korean SS/Phone # to get in or at least be able to unlock your account, if it happens. Considering how Korean companies operate, I don't expect a lot of the above to be changed, once the Korean Open Beta comes out, but we'll have to see what they do with it, as it's likely what we'll get for launch, with an increased chance the International one will be several grades of stupid lower then KRO, from content, to server/game operation.

[Kachiko]

Lulz......

Basically, ToS is DirectX9, which forces the game into a single thread, for the CPU/GPU to communitcate. Unless the game gets a DirectX11/12 redo, or a hell of a lot better optimization, this doesn't bode well for the game.

[SamanosukeShiva]

next beta I'm gonna roll an alchemist, item awakening is cool af

going wiz>pyro>linker>pyro2>sorc>alc

[Gulkeeva]

next beta I'm gonna roll an alchemist, item awakening is cool af

going wiz>pyro>linker>pyro2>sorc>alc

Only bad part from what I hear, and seen is the bonus is RNG, so you could get like spell damage bonus on your 2 hander for your barbarian.... O_o

[SamanosukeShiva]

not RNG, it's fixed stat bonus, different for each item

[Kachiko]

I want to see if Elementalist 3 has any attacks that hit flying enemies, because, if not, I may not go that class at all. It's pretty stupid how all Swordman, Cleric, and Archer classes can decently kill them but a wizard gets about two spells to kill them with, at elemetnalis 2.

[Charismatic]

>Cleric
>can decently kill them
Huh?

[Kachiko]

>Cleric
>can decently kill them
Huh?

You at least have auto-attacks + heal.

[SamanosukeShiva]

yo, c1 cleric and c3 priest rapes with their superbuffed auto attacks. Blessing+Sacrament OP as fuck. Your regular auto attack hits for 300, your buff hits for additional 400-600 damage, and if you have Arde dagger or something that gives extra elemental damage, it procs the buff again for another 400-600, or if you have pyro in your party that have +fire attack buff, that one also procs the blessing+sacrament. Thats why when you see priest, their auto attack have like 5 different numbers.

[Charismatic]

yo, c1 cleric and c3 priest rapes with their superbuffed auto attacks. Blessing+Sacrament OP as fuck. Your regular auto attack hits for 300, your buff hits for additional 400-600 damage, and if you have Arde dagger or something that gives extra elemental damage, it procs the buff again for another 400-600, or if you have pyro in your party that have +fire attack buff, that one also procs the blessing+sacrament. Thats why when you see priest, their auto attack have like 5 different numbers.

After three class changes and an additional party member... and still weaker than other classes (including Wizard)
I'm not sure what kind of point you guys are trying to make.

You at least have auto-attacks + heal.

Wizard also has auto attacks..? And more worthwhile attacks..?
Not to mention Joint Penalty if you have Linker in there. I mean, shit... there's no situation where a Wizard should be jealous of the damage a cleric/priest is doing. Ever... on anything.

[SamanosukeShiva]

He specifically says against flying mob, since flame ground doesn't work against them. But yeah 1 fireball should suffice to kill any trash mob, even ones that are higher level. The only problem is when they're on CD. also, Wizard auto attack is a complete joke against priest auto attack. I don't know enough about elementalist to comment on their skill, but the only wizard class that should be annoyed by flying mobs is pyro.

[Charismatic]

I know exactly what he said and it doesn't change anything...
By C1 pryo:
Flame Ground is the only move you'd have that doesn't work... and Wizard AA dumps on Cleric's until you get to c2 priest if they go pyro because they can enchant fire. Sure it tapers off later but by the time it does you'll already have more attacks that do work on flyers (and its good for any time you party with someone with blessing anyway).

There's no point in the game where Wizard classes should be doing less to flyers than Clerics.

[Kachiko]

I don't understand why your conflating 'decent at flying enemies' with 'clerics are better, in general, than wizards'. Every flying option that the wizard has access to, is on a long cool-downs/casting times or buried in the rank 3 of Cryo/Elementalist or Sorcerer Rank one (5 ranks to get to, btw), if you get Temple Shooter. When it comes to them, almost everything we have is crap against them, and our auto-attacks are both slow, and pointless if you don't have Enchant Fire; pray the mob also isn't fire resistant.

Sure, if it's a ground target, I'm efficient as fuck, but the gap between ground, and flying, is very noticeable, and I don't like being mostly gimped by that content, especially when a map is mostly flying enemies, and other classes don't appear to have the same difficulties with half of the enemies out there. They need to change any AOE to hit any mob type and things would mostly be fine, Overkill mechanic not-withstanding.

[Charismatic]

I don't understand why you're confusing 'clerics aren't better at flying enemies... or anything(as far as dealing damage is concerned)' with 'clerics are better, in general, than wizards'
Even as c1 pyro, you'd destroy a c2 cleric, c1 priest or c1 krivis on flying enemies and all you have to do after that is go linker and the gap widens to a point where it will never be bridged.

All you need is Fireball, Joint Penalty and Hangman's Knot and even with the 15sec CD (the damn thing can overheat too) you'd still be destroying any damage a Cleric could do at that point in the game and it only gets better.

[Gulkeeva]

yo, c1 cleric and c3 priest rapes with their superbuffed auto attacks. Blessing+Sacrament OP as fuck. Your regular auto attack hits for 300, your buff hits for additional 400-600 damage, and if you have Arde dagger or something that gives extra elemental damage, it procs the buff again for another 400-600, or if you have pyro in your party that have +fire attack buff, that one also procs the blessing+sacrament. Thats why when you see priest, their auto attack have like 5 different numbers.

yeah, there was a mnk with arde dagger + some other weapon... each hit was like 3,000+ (and she double attacks) so its like 6,000+ damage a sec... was raping stuff pretty dam hard. Kinda why I wanted to make one also.. the damage was just obscene

[SamanosukeShiva]

yeah unlike any other class, that skill has no CD and spammable, only cost 2? stamina, out of the 45+ i think, max stamina that monk usually have, and the stamina pill give 40 stamina on 30 sec cd. Pretty nuts.