Warrior Fantasy XIV: 1.0 Strikes Back [WAR/MRD 2.1 Update Thread]

[BerenTebogo]

Yeah, I was surprised by that too. Generally not a smart play, but if you're in no rush to get through T8 I guess it doesn't matter much.

Nobody else saved any soldiery. I'm literally the only person who can make use of it for another week.

[Kuji]

So I'm having a dilemma. I want more parry / ACC / defensive survivability in general on WAR for my pure tanking set. I've been comparing noct gear to HA gear to i90 gear to crafted i90 gear. My general feeling is noct gear, for the most part, blows absolute donkey dick for WAR aside from the pants (maybe) and ring. Aside from giving more DEF and a few more VIT it's generally pretty shit imo.

Now as far as I can reason, there's no good reason to buy the i90 body / hands / belt / legs and use them over what I currently have. There's no way to stack enough ACC / Parry to make up for the fact that they have 2 shitty main stats on already (DET/SS). However the head and feet have the potential to be melded to be as good as what I use now + some ACC / DPS secondary stat. However, head and feet both drop in T6, which we have no problem clearing.

So question is, is the i90 crafted gear worth it for me? I'm leaning towards no, but I want to make sure it's not just me being stingy.

Considering how much you are willing to spend, it's definitely worth it if you max meld them. I came up with the same choices as well and decided on head/feet and they worth every bit for me. Head piece with 21 Crit 21 Parry 18 Acc 12 Dtr, feet with exactly the same stats. Really makes up for the acc loss elsewhere, for me atleast since I decided on not getting soldiery body first.

[Deadgye]

Yeah, I was surprised by that too. Generally not a smart play, but if you're in no rush to get through T8 I guess it doesn't matter much.

Weathered weapons are the same ilvl as Animus and Tidal weapons. Prioritizing acc weapons for those hurting for accuracy sounds like a good plan to me.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Can get through T8 just fine without a single weapon over i95 so I dunno why it's such a hot button issue. Especially when...

Nobody else saved any soldiery. I'm literally the only person who can make use of it for another week.

...because not everyone plans 3 weeks in advance that they can beat the roadblock that is T7.

[BerenTebogo]

Can get through T8 just fine without a single weapon over i95 so I dunno why it's such a hot button issue. Especially when...


...because not everyone plans 3 weeks in advance that they can beat the roadblock that is T7.

Yep. I just went all in from the start and decided that I wanted my conqueror more than I wanted metal abs.

[Obsidian]

Can't speak for WARs but I don't have the Noct body yet because I was hoping High Allagan would come from an earlier turn. Burtgang kinda sucks though so I've just been sitting on my tomes for now.

[Raldo]

Can anyone give any suggestions for gear upgrade paths that they're doing for WAR? I'm in a bit of a pickle here. I'm barely meeting the accuracy requirements for coil2, and I own Weathered Noct Legs/Body/Ring. I do not own the turn-5 axe or head, so I'm having difficulty deciding what to buy next (if anything) because almost everything (except earring, I guess? or gloves, but I don't want to buy those) will drop my accuracy to a level that's probably unacceptable. Right now I feel like, without the H.A. Helm from Turn 6, I can't really buy anything with my soldiery unless we clear T7 and I get the weapon.

Is anyone else running into this issue?

[BerenTebogo]

Can anyone give any suggestions for gear upgrade paths that they're doing for WAR? I'm in a bit of a pickle here. I'm barely meeting the accuracy requirements for coil2, and I own Weathered Noct Legs/Body/Ring. I do not own the turn-5 axe or head, so I'm having difficulty deciding what to buy next (if anything) because almost everything (except earring, I guess? or gloves, but I don't want to buy those) will drop my accuracy to a level that's probably unacceptable. Right now I feel like, without the H.A. Helm from Turn 6, I can't really buy anything with my soldiery unless we clear T7 and I get the weapon.

Is anyone else running into this issue?

You need to just suck it up and find some way to farm T5 for the axe. I have an abundance of ACC because of melded wolfram head / feet / W. noct hands, and I use HA choker, Allagan earrings, HA bracelet, W. Noct ring, hero's fending, all of which have large chunks of ACC so I can use either Bravura or Levi Axe as I see fit.

There is no way around the T5 being the easiest, cheapest, and overall best solution to your problem though.

[Hiryo]

Can anyone give any suggestions for gear upgrade paths that they're doing for WAR? I'm in a bit of a pickle here. I'm barely meeting the accuracy requirements for coil2, and I own Weathered Noct Legs/Body/Ring. I do not own the turn-5 axe or head, so I'm having difficulty deciding what to buy next (if anything) because almost everything (except earring, I guess? or gloves, but I don't want to buy those) will drop my accuracy to a level that's probably unacceptable. Right now I feel like, without the H.A. Helm from Turn 6, I can't really buy anything with my soldiery unless we clear T7 and I get the weapon.

Is anyone else running into this issue?

A lot of people are doing Heavy Wolf head, belt and possibly hands with Heaven's Eye.

Edited because I'm a trash poster

[Niiro]

Heaven's Eye*

[Nyanoko]

Don't be me, and buy a bunch of Savage Aim's to meld, thinking Aim = Accuracy.

But yeah, I looked at my WAR options of either pugging more T5, or just melding up a Wolfram Helm. Money well spent.

[BerenTebogo]

Let's talk about Novus:

Assuming all secondary stats are equally easy to apply and equally customizable, what are people considering for their axes? I'm personally a bit torn because here's what we're looking at:

HA Battleaxe: DMG53 Parry 46 ACC 32

This is pretty much the ideal tanking axe, and while yes, if you don't have any chance of getting HABA anytime soon, it's pretty obvious that a tank Novus is the way to go. But for those of us who stand a chance of getting it within at least ~4-6 weeks (making having to redo the axe probably a giant pain in the ass) what are we left with?

Well making a tank Novus seems pretty silly, we'd just be making a shittier version of HABA, but what about making a DPS axe? Well given that HABA will have higher base damage, can we stack enough Crit / DET to overcome that gap? Conqueror is 51 damage so assuming a 2 base damage difference, that's 16 STR from base damage and 3 STR from 5 ilvls to overcome. It seems unlikely we can assemble any amount of Crit / DET to overcome 19 STR difference.

There's the possibility of making a super defensive tank axe and doing Parry / Skill speed for marginally lower downtime between inner beasts, but this really doesn't seem worth it.

tl;dr I'm really interested to hear from WARs who have cleared T8 and even T9 about what they're doing for their Novus. I'm stumped.

[MisterBob]

I don't think the Novus will have much use, to be honest. I'm building one for fun, but HA + Conquerer will generally exceed it.

The only way you could really build the Novus into something useful is if you found an interesting Skill Speed threshold for WAR (triple IB or something) or the BiS build ended up not needing Acc on the weapon. This is actually possible since thinks like HA pants give insane Acc.


In the end the Novus is more for casual/non-raiders, and I feel like it's been itemized as such for a lot of the classes.

[BerenTebogo]

I don't think the Novus will have much use, to be honest. I'm building one for fun, but HA + Conquerer will generally exceed it.

The only way you could really build the Novus into something useful is if you found an interesting Skill Speed threshold for WAR (triple IB or something) or the BiS build ended up not needing Acc on the weapon. This is actually possible since thinks like HA pants give insane Acc.


In the end the Novus is more for casual/non-raiders, and I feel like it's been itemized as such for a lot of the classes.

Well even on the Conqueror front (let's assume it takes you 20+ T9 kills to get HABA, thanks RNG) you're given ~40 ACC and ~30 crit. Given stuff like HA pants, and other shit (currently I'm i103 with 554 ACC using Wave Axe) one could argue doing like 30 DET 30 ACC on Novus to keep some of the BiS ACC requirement while getting a bit more DPS for your buck.

Though it still comes back down to the question of is it worth it? I genuinely don't know, lol.

Part of why I brought up SKS is because I'm equally interested in finding out some top secret SKS threshold for 3x IB or some shit. If you loaded on like 44 SKS and stacked it in other places while using HQ Eft Steaks or the like I wonder...

Edit:

Never mathed out SKS before so please correct me where I'm wrong, but I tried to back of the napkin out some SKS numbers, join me for bad math:

Assuming starting at 4 wrath stacks with maim + eye up and a GCD value equal to mine at 2.47 seconds:

Bersek -> 2.47s -> IB -> 2.47 -> Inf -> 2.47 -> IB -> 2.47 -> 5x 2.47 for from scratch wrath build = ~22s

If this method of calculating SKS is correct, SKS would need to be stacked such that GCD time is maximized at 2.22s. I don't know how preempting GCD by mashing buttons factors into these calculations so if any of you do, please correct. As is, a reduction of .25s on GCD from SKS seems insurmountable short of being given GL3.

[Tymon]

Ultimate DPS set? Anyone have one? Is it as simple as "Wear Slaying stuff in accessories?"

Trying to maximize my performance as OT on T8

[Seravi Edalborez]

Pretty much.

i70 melded accessories: STR+45, VIT+50

i90 STR accessories: STR+65
i90 VIT accessories: VIT+75
i90 split 4/1 STR/VIT: STR+52, VIT+15
i90 split 3/2 STR/VIT: STR+39, VIT+30

i110 STR accs: STR+90
i110 VIT accs: VIT+105
i110 4/1 split: STR+72, VIT+21
i110 3/2 split: STR+56, VIT+42

Maximum deeps: max STR, fuck VIT
Balance/least amount of i100+ lootwhore: i70

[BerenTebogo]

Ultimate DPS set? Anyone have one? Is it as simple as "Wear Slaying stuff in accessories?"

Trying to maximize my performance as OT on T8

Get slaying or gloam, yes.

[Crizto]

I don't play Warrior outside of maybe a dungeon a week, but does this break any rule for achieving this 3 IB malarkey? :

Build to 4 Wrath
Heavy Swing > Berserk > IB
Build to 4 Wrath + Vengeance thrown in there somewhere > IB
Infuriate > IB

I've got a 2.48 second GCD and this worked :s I got 3 IB while under the effect of Berserk.

[aielwaste]

Just recently changed my 30 points to STR and went to all STR accessories on my WAR and have been very happy. Seems like I take a lot less damage because mobs die faster, snap aggro is better, and better dps for the fight. I off-tank turn 6, 7, and 9 for my static on STR Warrior and MT with PLD on turn 8. If you're looking for first soldiery piece to go with, I agree with Sath, go with the Conquerer if you are able.

[BerenTebogo]

I don't play Warrior outside of maybe a dungeon a week, but does this break any rule for achieving this 3 IB malarkey? :

Build to 4 Wrath
Heavy Swing > Berserk > IB
Build to 4 Wrath + Vengeance thrown in there somewhere > IB
Infuriate > IB

I've got a 2.48 second GCD and this worked :s I got 3 IB while under the effect of Berserk.

At least for me it's about not using vengeance for it since that's like usin sentinel on PLD to up your DPS. On anything important its gonna get you killed.