X-Men: Apocalypse (May 27th, 2016)

[Cichy]

Meh he can know nothing of game of thrones for what I care. Still all the best X-men movies are made by him so idgaf

[Kaslo]

First Class would like a word with you

[Odesseiron]

First Class would like a word with you

Agreed, that's the best one, followed by X-Men 2 IMO. I kinda couldn't stand DoFP

[kuronosan]

Days was probably most like X2, which is the best... In my opinion of course.

I don't know why anyone likes First Class. It was so convoluted and silly I'm convinced the actors are the only reason why.

[Tyrath]

...Werent you the one arguing United was the worst in the Deadpool thread?

[kuronosan]

X2 is not United. That's X3.

Edit:
Ah shit. 3 is the last stand.

I take it all back. United = Best. Fuck me I have to get some sleep.

[Tyrath]

X2 is not United. That's X3.

Edit:
Ah shit. 3 is the last stand.

I take it all back. United = Best. Fuck me I have to get some sleep.

Yeah now you see why I've been going WTF at you.

[Cichy]

Singer directed X1, 2, and dofp. All pretty good movies and people credit X1 for the wave of superhero movies we are getting now. I'm looking forward to this movie more than some of the Disney stuff at this point.

[Xno Kappa]

Admittedly I haven't rewatched X1 in forever, but from what I can recall that shit was terrible. It was basically a shitty wolverine movie with an equally shitty script.

Are we revising history and pretending it was passable?

[Tyrath]

No, you just have terrible taste and/or memory.

X1 was awesome when it came out. If any rewrites of history might happen it would be because Marvel started churning out one golden nugget after another. But back then it was X1 that brought superhero movies back from the grave.

[Cichy]

Admittedly I haven't rewatched X1 in forever, but from what I can recall that shit was terrible. It was basically a shitty wolverine movie with an equally shitty script.

Are we revising history and pretending it was passable?

Are you kidding? When that movie came out it was the Dark Knight comparing to shit like Batman and Robin. Comic book movies were a joke

[Xno Kappa]

I'm convinced we're revising BG history for the sake of justifying Singer's later movies. I'm pretty sure X1 was fucking terrible.

[Cichy]

I still think it was a good movie. I watch it if I catch it on tv. It's certainly nowhere even close to how bad they were back than and even the newer ones like Green Lantern are.

[Tyrath]

I'm convinced we're revising BG history for the sake of justifying Singer's later movies. I'm pretty sure X1 was fucking terrible.

Theres no revising history to be done. It was a critically acclaimed, box office hit that brought superhero movies back. Most everyone I know loved the first 2 Xmen movies. It's the third one where shit started to go wrong.

I have no idea what you're smoking but I want some of that.

[kuronosan]

X1 was what people dreamed of when we were getting movies like Ghost Rider quality.

[Null]

Admittedly I haven't rewatched X1 in forever, but from what I can recall that shit was terrible. It was basically a shitty wolverine movie with an equally shitty script.

Are we revising history and pretending it was passable?

Are you crazy? X1 was the stepping stone for modern day comic book movies. That shit is a classic. Still holds up.

[chazzyphizzle]

it is definitely not a classic but it wasnt terrible, it was good enough

[6souls]

Simon Kinberg explains how X:A ties into Deadpool, Gambit, & Wolverine (and FF but they don't count anymore) by speaking nonsense

Well this movie take space chronologically before those other films, so it’s more like those films have to acknowledge this than we acknowledge Gambit, Deadpool, or Fantastic Four or anything else that exists within the sort of Fox/Marvel universe. But I work on all of those films in one capacity or another, either as a producer on all of them and as a writer on Fantastic Four and this movie, so I’m certainly aware of all the different stories we’re telling at the same time, and they all are part of a larger fabric now, and so the world of Deadpool, the world of Gambit, exists in a post-Days of Future Past post-Apocalypse world where all of these stories are the same as our shared history. The same way that each of us of different ages knows about Nixon and knows about Reagan and knows about 9/11, our fictitious events like the stadium dropping on the White House in 1973 is part of the world in which Gambit, Deadpool, Wolverine on forward exists.

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/simo...apocalypse-138

ScreenRant provides character details, via interviews, on Storm, Psylocke, Magneto, & Angel

Spoiler: show

We started looking at cults and the nature of cults, because cult leaders, true cult leaders, develop god complexes and he always traditionally had four horsemen so I thought a cult has traditionally four factions to it that interest me. It has a political faction, and I’d always felt Magneto could fill those shoes. It always has a military faction, so Archangel could fill those shoes as the guardian. There’s also youth faction, those that you’re trying to seduce and grow into your cult, the young whose minds are malleable, and lastly the sexual component because cult leaders tend to sexualize their position and have sex with half the people in their cult.

Storm

It’s just pure love. I feel like when someone joins a cult, they end up becoming kindred spirits. They’re following the same thing. They all have the same goal which is Apocalypse… So what he is attracted to is their level and their magnitude of power. I think that his plan for her in the movie is to protect him. Protect him with fog. Protect him with lightening. Blow away a missile. Blow away a plane. There is so much that she can do, and what he’s looking for is protection because he just woke up after a couple thousands and thousand years. He’s weak and he’s alone, and he’s been betrayed, you know.

She admires him. She believes in him because for so long humans have treated her like crap. He is like, “Well in my day it was different”. She’s like, “Let’s get back to there, let’s get back to that.” She’s a weather goddess, you know. She’s a level, what is she, level 4, level 5 almost? She’s almost on Magneto’s level when it comes to her power.

Psylocke

That’s the amazing thing about cult leaders. They can really see when people are weak and how to prey on that and capitalize on that. You see that with Magneto and Storm and Angel and myself. We all are in a place where we’re really needing somebody to come in and say, “This is the way.”

[Apocalypse] first meets her and she’s the bodyguard. She’s got this amazing skill and she has zero fear when she goes against him, so he needs her. What he sees in her is that she is someone who can protect and has no fear and is an amazing fighter and has amazing abilities. She’s doing things because she wants to do them. She’s like, “I want to join you. You haven’t fooled me into joining you. I get it, I see what you’re doing, and I want to be part of it.” In the end, they manipulate her, but it’s always her choice to join it.

Magneto

At that moment where things are being taken away from him again in Poland it’s almost like he’s looking for an answer, or he’s challenging God, it’s like, “What do you want from me? I’ve tried everything. I’ve tried to lead a good life. I’ve tried to do it correctly, whatever that is, and now you do this to me so what do you want?” It’s sort of like a challenge to God, if he’s out there, and then Oscar’s character arrives.

He arrives and it’s like, “Okay well something much more powerful than me has arrived,” in a way kind of like a god; he’s the original mutant. And I think… Magneto doesn’t really follow anyone, so it was kind of a hard thing like, well how does he just become one of Apocalypse’s Horsemen, and is he cool with that? But he appreciates that this guy is going to do what he couldn’t do. He’s got just so much more power than him, he’s such an immense force. In a way, it’s like that classic thing of joining any cult or radical group, he’s caught him at a very low, vulnerable point where he doesn’t really care anymore whether he dies or not or what happens, so he’s like, “Yeah I’ll join this guy. I’ll go on this path of judgment.”

Angel

We just filmed a scene where we bring Angel, and Angel’s our final horsemen, and he’s getting his suit made, and he and I have this moment where we look at each other and I just smile at him. It’s not anything sexual and it’s not anything like, “Yeah babe”. It’s kind of just like a … You know, where you’re just like, “This is cool, this is awesome, we’re together on this. We are going to take on these people. I don’t know who these X-Men are, I don’t know who this Xavier dude is. We’re going to beat him up. We’re going to win. I shoot lightning.

http://screenrant.com/x-men-apocalyp...men-explained/

[Tyrath]

it is definitely not a classic but it wasnt terrible, it was good enough

We can all argue about exactly how good those movies were. But the general consensus was that they were good.

[6souls]

DoFP & Apocalypse negate X-Men 1, 2 and 3

• The world that exists in Apocalypse differs from the other X-Men movies in that in this timeline, mutants were exposed to the world in 1973 during the debacle at the White House, and so they’re living out in the open and mostly accepted.
• This new timeline is not necessarily leading towards the first X-Men movie anymore, although the philosophy is that the river will mostly end up in the same place with a few divergences here and there. This timeline is leading up to the New Future seen at the end of Days of Future Past, barring any other time travel changes.
• In this new timeline, people could die that were alive in X-Men 1, 2 and 3, and people could survive who died in those three films.
• Since the mutants aren’t in hiding anymore, this Charles Xavier’s School for the Gifted is a much bigger school and a “brighter, happier place” at the beginning of the film.

http://collider.com/x-men-apocalypse...hings-to-know/