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  1. #2001
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    Fab is a pretty good stunner too.

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    Ya ulegore, fablinx, and zeid 2 are all decent for stunning random spells/tp moves, it's a shame they won't rotate them thou.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anoat View Post
    This. Partially the reason why Zeid 2 is so beloved. He does good damage when he connects and he never misses a Stun if timer is up. Better than all of your BLMs camping Cerb in 2007!
    A few other things, too: he holds his TP to 3000 so he's less likely to interrupt a self-SC, and he's a DRK, which adds another 10% att to Qultada's Chaos Roll.

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    He doesn't always hold tp to 3k though. He does like to skillchain... with capped hastes and acc he actually self skillchains with himself

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    I've only ever seen Zeid 2 use Ground Strike, I'm not even sure if he knows any other moves lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    He doesn't always hold tp to 3k though. He does like to skillchain... with capped hastes and acc he actually self skillchains with himself
    Seconding this. If you use a WS that allows Zeid II to follow with Ground Strike to make Light or Distortion (i.e. Frag or Fusion opener), he will take the opportunity as soon as he's able.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anoat View Post
    I've only ever seen Zeid 2 use Ground Strike, I'm not even sure if he knows any other moves lol
    He doesn't WS with anything else but, unlike Zeid I who'll use a mix of (frequently crappy) GS weaponskills instead. It makes him remarkably reliable, and he'll also close WSes with other Trusts if they go off and he's locked out of an opener. Double Darkness is pretty damn awesome.

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    I haven't done much (any?) soloing with trusts on RNG, but with the coming update allowing solo players to pop Geas Fete NMs I think that might be a good approach to get some solo kills for farming gear off stuff like T1 Zitah NMs. Good damage, safe from nasty AoE, and even decent TH through Bounty Shot.

    Anyone have trust suggestions for RNG+trust setup on this kind of stuff (single NMs of moderately high level)?

    I was thinking something like:
    (1) Apururu UC
    (2) August/Amchuchu (question on trust tanks... does Decoy Shot work on them?)
    (3) Qultada (what rolls does he use for RNG anyway, Chaos + Hunter's?)
    (4) Koru-Moru (particularly for Flurry II, Distract II)

    Assuming I won't ever have access to Sylvie because I like Apururu too much, any suggestions for 6th?

    - Not sure if either BRD will use anything decent for RNG (i.e. Prelude or Minuet) - any insight?
    - Maybe Kuyin for Racc+25?
    - Zeid II for the DRK job bonus to Chaos Roll and occasional stuns, though I'm guessing he gets himself killed pretty quickly on any decently strong AoE using NM
    - Backup tank?
    - Maybe a SC partner (but I'm skeptical of any trust's acc on this level of NM)
    - Maybe a BLM (though again skeptical they won't be majorly resisted, if they even cast at all thanks to many of the BLMs having AI like automaton Scanner that won't cast if likelihood of a resist is too high)

    Anybody who might have some experience doing solo RNG-style trust fights, I'd love to hear what you have to say!

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    Qultada is rather dumb. From what I've seen he will pretty much always prioritize chaos first, then normally do DA unless something makes him use another. Like mages with low mp will get evokers, meleeing something conning high evasion will get hunters, commitment effects will get cor roll. That said I think they said they were going to adjust him this update or next so who knows.

    Brds and qultada might be a bit problematic since they stay in range. Various types of dds will have hard time getting good hit rates. So I think maybe just another ranged support or maybe another tank.

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    About the RDM trusts, please correct me if I'm wrong:

    Koru-Moru: Casts Dispel, Casts DistractII, casts Dia3 (sometimes?), casts FrazzleII (sometimes?), seen it attempt to cast Silence but that seemed procced by something. Likewise with Bio3. Casts Prot5, Shell5, Phalanx2, Haste2, Flurry2 and Refresh2 but selectively (like: no haste for mages). Casts Cure4 rarely, does convert. Doesn't melee.
    Arciela: Casts all buffs plus other specific ones, but only for her summoner. Casts ParalyzeII and SlowII, Casts Addle, casts Dispel, does melee (her TP hits are considered magic). Doesn't cast Frazzle/Distract/Bio/Dia?
    KingOfHearts: Casts all buffs but only on his summoner. Has a TP move that erases debuffs (needs TP), does melee (physical hits). Casts and MBs with AoE Fire spells. Casts Dia, has /WHM -na status heal, tempers himself.

    Can anybody fill the missing stuff and fix the mistakes?

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    Koru casts Phalanx on the person with hate if they don't already have it. He might have the same rules for Prot/Shell.

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    King of hearts will cast phalanx/haste 2 on other players/trusts as well if they have hate. I've never seen him cast an enfeeble besides dia (idk where you got all those from), but he does have /whm status cures and can temper himself.

    Arceila's auto-attacks are light (regardless of what her hands show), for whatever that's worth.

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    Daybreak gives PDT-50% (no MDT) to August.
    Phalanx potencies (easy to check with VW Cactuar)
    Koru : -25
    King of Hearts : -35
    Rahal : -29
    Amchuchu : -40... that's odd, it should absorb 31 dmg with RUN base skill, also if Koru/KoH casts Phalanx II on her it will absorb 34/44 dmg, it's like she has a Phalanx +9 trait.
    Morimar has the Beastmaster job.

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    August has Killer traits too. Either that or a JA that gives him temporary killer effects.


    Anyway, basically atm there is no RDM that casts all the relevant RDM debuffs? It seems to me they are split between the three RDMs currently available to us.
    Ungh... I forgot that RDM from the past, the one who only casts Haste2 on himself and Curilla. Maybe he casts all debuffs on current targets? Haven't used him in ages.
    Are there other RDMs that I forgot about?

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    Is he intimidating outside of Escha? Because the only time I've seen it (albeit with a small sample size) is inside, and I've theorized that vorseals are at work there. Ofc I don't use him for a lot of things outside, so maybe I've just missed it.

    And I imagine that they split up duties for the reason of trying to diversify your party, just as they did with WHMs. Ferreous would only do single target cures and focus on the person with hate, Mihli would use Afflatus Solace, etc.

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    I've seen him do it in BCNMs so yeah. Pretty sure it's a tie in to the founder's set having it. Also seems to me that Daybreak helps his enmity. Always seemed rather noticeable the difference in his ability to gain/maintain hate with it up or not though I suppose it might have some to do with taking less dmg. Though from what I've seen he doesn't seem to like to use it if he doesn't have hate in the first place lol

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    I was under the impression Cherukki was a rdm. Is that a no?

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    Nope whm

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    So how are the new trusts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teryu View Post
    So how are the new trusts?
    More specifically, does Iroha II get Embrava?

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