Trusts

[NynJa]

Well it's better than nothing and if you generally run around cping in a group of some sort you might not care which leader you have other than for the unity boosts

I get my CP using apururu as healer

I could switch and just use my own healer...but its one less thing to focus on, and I actually like having my unity gear get max boosts.

[scaevola]

I feel a lot of active players went to Yoran and Sylvie while Apururu is a big mix of everyone, including mules and people that don't even set RoEs. After jumping around several Unities, it's the only one where I've seen people ask how they lost the Unity Trust.

This is almost certainly what's going on. I always see people recommend Apururu even if there's a strong case to be made that she's not better than another WHM enough to justify passing on Sylvie (who is herself one of the strongest WHM trusts in addition to her bubbles).

[Howie Roary]

Apururu was number 1 on cerb for weeks when I came back but then out of nowhere she was ditched in favor of someone weird, I forget. Now it's Yoran-Oran and Sylvie alternating for 1st, Apururu hasn't been 1st in 3 months, always a solid 3rd. I keep Apururu anyway due to curagas and being MNK solo all the time so most of the trusts stay up front with me.

[Celebrindor]

suggestions for trust combination while playing BLM? I'm looking for a good combination of two DDs to add to my tank/healer/support to give me steady light/fusion to work with between the two trusts whilst I sit back and go boom. Iroha/Selh'teus was average, but frequency of skillchain was very low.

[Howie Roary]

Zeid II closes reliably with Ground Strike (I think he only uses this) and Ayame reliably sets up skill chains (she's great for trials) so perhps the 2 could work together if their AI works with other trusts the way it does with you

[scaevola]

suggestions for trust combination while playing BLM? I'm looking for a good combination of two DDs to add to my tank/healer/support to give me steady light/fusion to work with between the two trusts whilst I sit back and go boom. Iroha/Selh'teus was average, but frequency of skillchain was very low.

I don't think there are any trusts programmed to sc with each other. You have iroha, but noillurie self-scs as well. I want to say Gilgamesh does, too?

[Damane]

suggestions for trust combination while playing BLM? I'm looking for a good combination of two DDs to add to my tank/healer/support to give me steady light/fusion to work with between the two trusts whilst I sit back and go boom. Iroha/Selh'teus was average, but frequency of skillchain was very low.

not sure what you mean but iroha II self step SCs are quiet frequent and light based. you can even start her SCs if you want but you want to sit back. I use shantotto II and Iroha II. Shantotto II has the benefit of either Scing with iroha II or with you depending on your opening SC she does lvl 2 or lvl 3 Scs with you or Iroha + she follows then up with an MB.

If you want rally nonstop SCs going on i would suggest to switch to SCH and get 550 JPs and do your own SCs.

Trusts tend to hold off ther TP in hopes that you WS. so if you sit on 1000 TP they wait and wait and wait and wait for you to WS as opposed if you hit 1000 TP and thei have 1000 TP and you go WS then Iroha II/Shantott II will follow up with a WS to SC and Iroha II usually then follow ups for multi step lvl 2 SCs into light.

Iroha II will usually do fragmentation ---> fusion ---> light solo
if you open with black halo iroha goes gravitation ---> distortion ---> darkness
if you have shontotto II on too and you open with hexa strike:
Gravitation (shanotto II) ---> distortion (iroha) ---> Darkness (iroha)
Exudation does shit for both of them.

shantotto II will create a light SC if you open with realmrazer

so far my favourite combo is amchuchu + apururu + iroha II + arciela II + shantotto II when I am on a nukeing job. Love that combo when i go fuck around solo in WKR the amount of SCs ends the battles in like 5 min.

there is no reliable way to do constant SC on anything remotly hard (read reisen Nms) with just trusts. just switch to sch for that instant and do your own SCs.

[Smokenttp]

i tend to spend alot of my in game time with trusts so i kinda know a bit of their AI , so to ansewer some recent things that poped up here, the stoneskin thingie iroha2 does is actually comes from the raise from the ashes as well and its about an 700ish damage stoneskin with 15 mins duration (together with the secound best aoe heal tp move avaliable from trusts) , she uses it at an ok frequency but there is one trust who actually is alot more generous with aoe healing... Arciela 1 she does have an tp move called ilustrious aid wich AOE heals for upward 1k hp and she is not stingy at all when using it,be advised that she does need tp(1k) to use so it is not exactly as reliable as apururu curagas however in a oh shit moment heals it is actually awesome i managed to get alot of Dawn 2 wins with a dead apururu during the last% and arciela helping to hold the ground with ilustrious aid she is a bit more forgiving into when to use the healing move then iroha2 as 2 trusts on yellow makes she actually goes for it already, from my experience iroha does this as well but at a lower hp% then arciela (but not by much maybe 10%ish), as for the other aoe healing tusts for me they are completely unreliable those are selth teus, leko , lilisette 1 and 2 and they all have aoe tp move heals altough they are either too weak to be worth it or the trust is pretty stingy about using then.

As for magical auto attacks you have balamor, selth teus, both arcielas , shanttoto 2 that are 100% magical all the time(maybe milaudreon (sp?) but i am not sure about that one) also all of those trusts ws are magical as well and not subject to mob evasion (so does their auto attacks) meaning that even at high level mobs (apex) they will still generate tp and be able to ws once their AI allows then. currently i am soloing apex mob (not that it is fast doing it for sience , the jobs i used are both bst and geo for this and with geo shanttoto and arciela 2 can put some ok numbers on these namely 13k thuder 1 on shanttoto 9k thunder V on arciela but be warned that arciela will only cast spells if you do meva down on apex if she calculates that the spell will get resisted she will not mb at all there are other trusts that do this like korou marou for casting distract 2) with shanttoto 2 selth teus combos, however due to selth teus regain he acutally ws with alot more frequency then shanttoto so if you want you can use that oportunity to try to sc with him (i use cloudsplitter on bst to close light if i have tp or sabotender ???? needles as this tp move bypass evasion checks) (as for me not using arciela2 is mostly due to her ability to close skill chains with shanttoto is alot unreliable due to her liking to spam that stupid amnesia tp move that gets resisted on apex anyway....)

as for mage setup you may want to consider sylvie if you absolutely dont need apururu as her indi accumen is almost as strong as an idris geo one (at least acording to ffxiclopedia) as for sc partners if you want the trusts to do all the sc work i find it easier to get trusts that ws regardless of your tp (selth teus is an good option for this altough he holds the tp if you are close to 1k tp as does alot of trusts, or you can trick ayame AI by holding 1k more tp and dont wsing this way she will keep opening ws´s as soon as she hits 1k tp (or if her meditate is up)) and a trust that aims to close the skill chains (again alot of trusts does have this behaiviour including shanttoto 2, gilgamesh is an good option, semi lafinah and zeid 2 is probably the strongest ones damage wise, some ppl like maximilian and mayakov alot for this as well, and well both irohas are good at this not damage wise but since her ws are all magical she never misses then so you might want to consider her)

[Teryu]

Mildaurion and Selh'teus don't have magical auto attacks, but since Selh'teus has a high auto regain it might seem like his attacks connect often. Mildaurion just has the laser hand auto attack animation that Ajido has.

[scaevola]

So, I don't know if I was just incredibly unlucky or just not paying attention closely enough, but trusts do hit weaknesses in Dynamis.

A couple other things: if you seal your subjob, the trusts you summon will have their subjobs sealed as well. There's no reason to think they can't hit white, though I haven't seen it. Also, you don't need to have a trust out when you get a TE for that trust to proc; I changed my trusts mid-run and the new ones were hitting just fine.

Summon four dancers and a general support and enjoy your relic.

[Teryu]

Which ones do you think are best for dyna? I can only think of the 3 DNC trusts we have that use steps and a whm.

[scaevola]

Which ones do you think are best for dyna? I can only think of the 3 DNC trusts we have that use steps and a whm.

Probably those three dancers, volker or naji (provoke from main job), and koru (WHM is overkill and koru will give you Haste II).

[Teryu]

That sounds pretty good. Think that setup would work for dyna NMs also?

[scaevola]

No reason to think it wouldn't.

Please don't overcamp me, bluegartr. Daddy needs a Terpsichore.

[Teryu]

I wonder if any of the magic auto-attackers can proc magic or ability weaknesses. Cause I noticed that August won't auto attack when he has amnesia.

[Smokenttp]

I have not seem magic auto attacks proc spell triggers(spell casters do proc spells normaly tough but it still sucks to go for spell procs even with an army of mage trusts) but i doubt they do (a friend of mine said balamor trigged a mage however might as well have been from an absorb spell and he missed it on the log) also when the trusts proc it appears as if you character proc´ed instead of the trusts ( instead of appearing mumor attacks staggers the fiend it apears your character name, i am pretty sure this happens in abyssea as well), so thats is probably the reason (SE spagetthi coding) why the TE thing is irrelevant on then.

As for seltheus auto attacks they are indeed not magical as i tought (altough his ws still are) but his regain is relevant enough you may want to consider him anyway for a mage build as Teryu said.

Amnesia affecting magical auto attacks i never actually saw that interresting i may test this later on.

as for dyna setup just stick with the 3 dncs and support ones (haste) and IF you want to be safe an whm altough unless you are figthing a smn or something hard i doubt you will need heavy healing and stick to the same strat ppl where using before for farming ( only this time there will be 4 characters applying steps wich pretty much makes proc ing really fast unless the monster is a dick wich can happen sometimes) so you will have faster procs and probably higher kill frequency due to haste and not needing to really as much in heals from /dnc (can even proc some ws mobs while at it if really needed / wanted)

[Trumpy]

A guy in LS said he got like 3 white procs with trusts when he went in subjob less as like drk or soemthing. he used dnc trusts

[Howie Roary]

No reason to think it wouldn't.

Please don't overcamp me, bluegartr. Daddy needs a Terpsichore.

wait wait, farming dyna to fund a mythic? I thought ppl farm alex to fund everything else

[Fwahm]

If you're talking about sheer gil to time ratios, Dynamis can compete with Salvage once your daily Arrapago II is over due to the 1 hour cooldown.

[dasva]

So here is something funny King of hearts can be intimidated by the player it is casting on