Trusts

[Damane]

Having a hard time remembering where Trusts can be summoned... Can they be summoned in Dynamis?

nope

only original, zilart, wotg, cop, adoulin areas (not in abyssea) + a couple BCs (missions and the new orb fights).

[Karbuncle]

nope

only original, zilart, wotg, cop, adoulin areas (not in abyssea) + a couple BCs (missions and the new orb fights).

Upsetting. Thank you!

[Casey_]

I just had Ayame get a "is too far away" message when trying to WS, then immediately WS'd again a few seconds later. Looks like they don't lose TP if their WS doesn't fire.. If only that could work for players...

It happened again and she didn't mysteriously get TP back to 1000, I watched it hit 0.

[dasva]

Ayame will often save meditate for when you have 1000+ but she is really low. Which generally only happens when she is too far away or misses

[PhoneAreas]

not sure if they summoned outside and entered or what

[Classikmage]

nope

only original, zilart, wotg, cop, adoulin areas (not in abyssea) + a couple BCs (missions and the new orb fights).

I tried to summon my trusts in an SKCNM10 and got the message that I couldn't use them in there. Did I do something wrong Or are SK10 exempt?

[Bairdos]

Have to summon them before entering.
I had been having issues getting them to actually follow me in, but making sure they are in the circle when I trade my orb to enter the battlefield has always worked.

[fantasticdan]

For the last 2 andoulin mission BCs I was able to summon them inside.

[Trumpy]

I think SE acknowledged there was a bug with those bcnms regardng trusts already. The same post they mentioned makin entering a bcnm reset all JAs inlcluding 1 hours in the future.

[dasva]

On a side note Zeid is a fucking boss now. Melees pretty dang hard, stuns moves, absorb-attributes whenever a mob buffs itself, and absorbs tp much better than most players I've seen lol, and aspirs when he gets low on mp (though sadly not before he gets low enough where ulmia starts panicking and using ballad instead of march). Even his crap ws like power slash was doing 1k. Except his unique move. It's some kind of drain that only does like 250-300

[jonas1]

Ferrous Coffin is now available for 500 sparks.

Whether the other 3 are available now remains to be seen, I figure it will be an upcoming login campaign.

[Ophannus]

All should be available. It's part of the extravaganza. Look around. Check campaign NPC for buying ciphers with allied notes at each country(Bastok might have Elviria, Windy might have Guttler mithra etc).

[stamos]

Nothing from Sandy or Windy in the past.

Nothing Asstok either

[jonas1]

Shamelessly C/P from Ah.

Cipher: Elivira
Shenni in Bastok Markets [S] (F-9)
1,000 Allied Notes

Cipher: Noillurie
Shixo in Southern San d'Oria [S] (F-9)
1,000 Allied Notes

Cipher: Lhu
Shuvo in Windurst Waters [S] (G-7)
1,000 Allied Notes

Cipher: F. Coffin
500 Sparks of Eminence

[Tachi]

Elivira : Berserk, Double Shot, Barrage, Split Shot, Heavy Shot, Slug Shot, Coronach.

Noillurie : Hasso, Third Eye, Tachi: Kaiten, Cure II/III. Does combo Sekkanoki > Tachi: Yukikaze > Meditate > Tachi: Gekko > Tachi: Kasha > Tachi: Kaiten for double Light Skillchain.

Lhu Mhakaracca : Berserk, Aggressor, Feral Howl, Spinning Axe, Rampage, Decimation, Onslaught, no Pet.

Ferreous Coffin : Cure, Haste, -na, Randgrith. Doesn't cast Protect, Shell or Regen.

[Scizor]

Noillurie : Hasso, Third Eye, Tachi: Kaiten, Cure II/III. Does combo Sekkanoki > Tachi: Yukikaze > Meditate > Tachi: Gekko > Tachi: Kasha > Tachi: Kaiten for double Light Skillchain.

Pair with Ayame should be pretty powerful

[Karbuncle]

More Info on the new Trusts.

Elivira: Will use Decoy Shot (not sure if on rotation or only if you stand in front of her), Double Shot, Berserk, Barrage... I was fighting some of the high-end goblins(the 75+ ones) in Inner Hor. Ruins while I was doing a trial there... Barrage did 3400 damage, immediately followed up by a ~1700 Heavy Shot. her ranged attacks were doing ~550/600 and melee attacks 250-280. Slug shot did about 1700~1900. Haven' witnessed Coronoch yet.
Conclusion: Moderate to high DPS, lands some sweet Barrages, and is smart enough to Decoy Shot.
Edit: Second Barrage - Whiff. Third Barrage - 3700

F. Coffin: Randgrith does about 1500-2k, and he favors that. He will haste other Trusts as well as you. Didn't notice much other about him that is unique. Melee attacks about 250-280
Conclusion: A Melee WHM.

Noillurie: Favors Kaiten it seems, which does about 1500-2k... Will use Sekka even if the mob is under 15% HP (I.E wasting it), uses Hasso. Melee attacks about 350~400. Can Cure IV as well.
Conclusion: Moderate to high DPS, Favors Kaiten, skillchains with herself.


For reference: F.Coffin and Elivira were doing about as much damage as my 119Mandau's normal hits.... also Elivira's Barrages are crazy as hell.
Edit2: I haven't noticed any of them proccing Double/Triple damage that relics have.

[Karizo]

NO WEAKNESS REMOVAL!? WTF SE

[Karbuncle]

I haven't been weakened yet , would be interesting to test...

[Fireon]

I've done some limited testing myself, and here's a few things I've found. I'm going to compare each of the new ones to their corresponding slot in my typical party of Mihli (Healer), Tenzen (Melee DPS), and Najelith (Ranged DPS).

As for Ferrous being a melee healer like Mihli, he gets the job done. His melee hits are about on par with Mihli's, though since he favors Randgrith his WS output is far better than Mihli's (and no stupid Scouring Bubbles AoE crap to get him into trouble). Like mentioned above, he also casts haste on you and the other trusts, which is fantastic. Two things Mihli does that he does not, however, are protect/shell and the use of Afflatus: Solace for that nice stoneskin boost, but those things are inconsequential compared to what Ferrous brings to the table.

On average, Tenzen's melee hits do about the same damage as Noillurie's, with his WSs doing more (Noillurie was doing around 600 with her Kaitans, but I was fighting mandies so maybe they were just unlucky blocks). But the main thing the new trust has over Tenzen is her use of JAs. She will use Hasso, Meditate, and Sekkanoki, typically in conjunction in order to perform double self-skillchains, which boost her damage output significantly, provided they aren't wasted. Add to that her limited healing ability, and she's hands down upgrade over Tenzen.

There isn't much that sets Elivira apart from Najelith, aside from their unique weapon skills and Elivira's tendency to use Decoy Shot on occasion, also Berserk. The removal of Typhonic Arrow is a plus because it leaves Elivira with no possible AoE moves to screw things up, and she uses a sword in melee, which does more damage than Najelith's dagger. The only thing that bugs me about her is that she will not move to engage your target. She plants herself where she is when the fight starts and only melees if the target happens to be within range. Other than that, she exclusively uses her gun, which is such a huge waste of potential. This is not a problem if you bother to bring her and the target together, but its unnecessary and annoying, and the only thing that prevents her from being a solid upgrade over Najelith.

Haven't had a chance to test Lhu, but I'll give her a shot now to see. I don't have my hopes up. Aside from the relic, she doesn't seem to have any other things that make her special.

Edit: Fighting a few mobs with Lhu and my opinion is pretty much unchanged. She uses Berserk, Feral Howl, and her relic WS Deccimator. Nothing else. Yawn.

Oh, and here's another thing about Ferrous I've noticed: He double attacks! He was already a better fighter than Mihli, but this is just gravy.