Trusts

[Sechs]

I think Aldo is underestimated, he does good damage and if the AoEing is not a problem he generates a lot of interesting Light/Darkness SCs with good damaging WSs, well at least with the jobs I tried him.
Also keep in mind Aldo get +DW when in party with Lion, and they both get something else when in pt with Zeid.
All three together are probably the best DD combination available atm if you factor out buffs like Haste and marches.

Plus he has a cool model and really cool animations!1!one

[Kyreth]

I think Aldo is underestimated, he does good damage and if the AoEing is not a problem he generates a lot of interesting Light/Darkness SCs with good damaging WSs, well at least with the jobs I tried him.
Also keep in mind Aldo get +DW when in party with Lion, and they both get something else when in pt with Zeid.
All three together are probably the best DD combination available atm if you factor out buffs like Haste and marches.

Plus he has a cool model and really cool animations!1!one

Now that's interesting. Trust NPCs are synergistic? That is, specific combinations cause them to behave in new ways?

I'm fond of Zeid. If for no other reason than he's good at c-c-c-combo breaking with stuns and actively keeps himself standing/drains buffs off enemies, which is nice in WKR. I've seen him, Kupipi and Valiniarel actually tank Yumcax for a surprisingly long time by themselves....which sorta surprised me.

Ferrous was definitely worth getting for me. Having your own healer/haster that actually WSes and melees is grand, though Kupipi is a good healer too and will WS herself MP with Starlight/Moonlight

[dasva]

Now that's interesting. Trust NPCs are synergistic? That is, specific combinations cause them to behave in new ways?

I'm fond of Zeid. If for no other reason than he's good at c-c-c-combo breaking with stuns and actively keeps himself standing/drains buffs off enemies, which is nice in WKR. I've seen him, Kupipi and Valiniarel actually tank Yumcax for a surprisingly long time by themselves....which sorta surprised me.

Ferrous was definitely worth getting for me. Having your own healer/haster that actually WSes and melees is grand, though Kupipi is a good healer too and will WS herself MP with Starlight/Moonlight

Certain ones do though I don't believe SE said anything about zeid in there just the lion Aldo thing. Autos also get a boost when the pup is with them.

Yeah Zeid is good for those things though fab does them too sorta (wont drain but dispel). Yumcax is rather easy until it uses certain moves.

Only problem I have with ferrous is lack of pro/shell and he only hastes the person with hate which occasionally can be a problem. Well and sometimes he interrupts my skillchains .

I can't wait till we get that haste 2 rdm though.... sorry Ferrous but I want more haste to compensate for gimp marches lol

[Sechs]

Lion-Aldo-Zeid is a revealed "special" combination. Take any combination of them (in 2 or 3) and they get different powerups.
There's the Automatons + Nashmeira combination.
There's the Shantottos combination I think?
Something else as well.

I'm pretty sure there are many other, but the Zeid-Aldo-Lion one is famous because at start it was broken and when you used them together Aldo would gain Delay 0 and would constantly attack faster than a monk with Hundred fists lol
But seriously, if for some reason you don't need the brd songs or haste or heals, I'm pretty confident those 3 guys together atm are likely the best DD combination.

[Mercilessturtle]

Aldos broken delay was just with lion, zeid didn't matter. What is adding zeid supposed to do? It doesn't seem to do anything. I don't think the shantottos do anything to each other either.

[arus2001]

I think Prishe's dropkick is conal, so that might be a concern for people not wanting AoEs. I also noticed her spawn message is different if you Ulmia called up, so it's possible there may be some kind of synergy there and maybe even a clue to overall synergies amongst different trusts.

When futzing around on my BLU, I was using Ayame, Kupipi, and Elivira. In leveling my GEO/BST, I swapped Ayame for Val. I don't think he'll use Uriel until the 50s and it's kinda funny to see El pop slug shot in the mid-20s and make mobs explode if it lands. Though, to be honest, I'm kind of underwhelmed with the AIs on these. If multiples get 1000+ TP, they could fudge up an SC. Some WS at like 1%. Others just don't seem to want to WS for no discernible reason. And, of course, they love to just stand in a straight line and eat conal mob moves.

[dasva]

Hmmm looking back Camate did say "On a side note, I haven’t seen this mentioned around here just yet, so I wanted to let you know that there is a secret aspect for Aldo (as well as Zeid and Lion). Using these alter egos in a party with each other (two or three of them) will boost their power a bit, so if you’re looking for damage try out this triumvirate of melee fighters."


But last I checked no one found anything other than the dw thing. And haven't really noticed much myself

[Outlaw]

The update about the Alter Ego Expo right now has a picture of Prishe, Ulima and Tenzen right next to the known combination of Aldo, Lion and Zeid. I would say their trying to tell us something.

[dasva]

It's probably just a zilart trusts next to CoP ones. Seriously doubt SE is hiding easter eggs in announcements for temp boosts to trusts. Especially since they flat out told us about the zilart ones and the nashmeira and her autos one

[Classikmage]

Maybe Tenzen get access to Cosmic Elucidation when he's grouped with them. :D

[Azat]

Been suggested before that trusts who had personalized summoned text to another trust would gain some kind of hidden bonus.

[FaeQueenCory]

Been suggested before that trusts who had personalized summoned text to another trust would gain some kind of hidden bonus.

This.

Anytime you summon a Trust and there's a different dialogue than normal... those Trusts have some effect...
Not that we know what most of those effects are.... (especially cause ones like Shantotto, Ajido-Marujido, and Star Sybil aren't used that often, let alone in concert)

I know I would be interested in learning what these boosts are......... but there's just too many variables to adequately tests....
SE should just give up the goods.

[dasva]

Been suggested before that trusts who had personalized summoned text to another trust would gain some kind of hidden bonus.

What like a dev suggested it or player suggested that might be the case? If it's a dev might want to check out what they said exactly if it's just rumors well testing or it didn't happen

[Hitou]

It's entirely player conjecture. The only known trusts that augment each other are aldo/lion/zeid and nashmira and her puppets. Other than that it's just text indicating the trusts know each other and sometimes trusts that should know each other don't respond at all like with Volker and Clara, while Zeid responds to both. If there's any secret boosts to these trusts it's so minor as to not be noticeable at all since I use trusts that talk to each other all the time.

[fantasticdan]

People wouldn't have noticed the aldo/lion or aphmau/puppet ones either if SE didn't point it out thou.

[dasva]

People wouldn't have noticed the aldo/lion or aphmau/puppet ones either if SE didn't point it out thou.

Well no one had a chance on aphmau one though people probably wouldn't have since those aren't exactly ones that are used much and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mSOQ1A7SY4 Published on May 18, 2014


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ldo#post508133 posted may 19th

[fantasticdan]

That guy noticed the bug with low level aldo, not the small dual-wield bonus he's supposed to get.

[dasva]

If you read the description his purposed explanation actually includes why and how which would in turn suggest he knew exactly what it did. Regardless noticed is noticed even if it was bugged

[fantasticdan]

That explanation was edited in after the video was uploaded, probably after SE announced the lion + aldo thing and he realized what caused the bug.

Regardless, noticing aldo go from normal un-hasted attack speed to hundred fists mode is a lot different than noticing him go from 35% to 40% or whatever dual-wield. Without that bug or SE announcing the bonuses, it's very likely they would have gone unnoticed forever.

[dasva]

Well that's plausible but is still far from proof of secret hidden boosts. So can't really advocating using them for such a reason until someone has conclusive tests or bugs camate lol