Trusts

[Kanriel]

adjust your ilvl till you find two EM mobs, kill one mob, note CP, wait a couple minutes, summon Kupofried, kill second mob, note CP.

How important is two EM mobs? Got two mobs that both conned T at 121. Without Kupofried 6300 exp, 1620 cp. With Kupofried it was 6930 exp and 1728 cp. This is 10% exp and 6.6666666666666666666666666% cp gain. So I believe that means CP is effected by Kupo.

[Sechs]

Slighly OT but since we're talking about it, anybody noticed if the Moghancement Bounty works in non-conquest areas? (that is: Adoulin areas)
I saw most people assuming it does but I was under the impression that moghancements do not work out of conquest areas?

[NynJa]

How important is two EM mobs? Got two mobs that both conned T at 121. Without Kupofried 6300 exp, 1620 cp. With Kupofried it was 6930 exp and 1728 cp. This is 10% exp and 6.6666666666666666666666666% cp gain. So I believe that means CP is effected by Kupo.

1-how were you 121? did I miss the ilvl cap increase?
2-T can be anywhere from your lvl+1 to your lvl+3, maybe even higher at 99. That means that its very possible those two T mobs werent the same level, therefor would give different CP.

I was under the impression that moghancements do not work out of conquest areas?

wut? lol since when? Probably just the conquest ones since they only work with conquest?

[Kanriel]

1-how were you 121? did I miss the ilvl cap increase?
2-T can be anywhere from your lvl+1 to your lvl+3, maybe even higher at 99. That means that its very possible those two T mobs werent the same level, therefor would give different CP.

I believe one of the windower addons (battlemod?) somehow parses the level of a mob.

The exp is exactly 10% higher with Kupo than without, would be very coincidental for there to be an exact 10% increase despite different level mobs and with and without kupofried, right?

[NynJa]

I forgot battlemod does that, I dont use battlemod (OMG??!?!?!)

if they were both 121, then that should confirm kupofried mods cp gain.

[Sechs]

wut? lol since when? Probably just the conquest ones since they only work with conquest?

I dunno, maybe I'm mixing stuff with Kupowers and Signet... can you name one moghancement you're 101% sure it works everywhere?
Would be awesome if Moghancement: Bounty works everywhere, just wanted to ask if anybody knew and/or tested.
If other moghancements already do work outside of conquest areas there's good reason to say that Bounty likely does too.


Also thanks guys, good to have a final confirmation that Kupofried works on CP as well.

[Raithen]

Moghancement: Experience definitely reduces Exp lost on death by 10% everywhere. Most of the rest are crafting or fishing related and I don't see why those wouldn't work

[dasva]

How important is two EM mobs? Got two mobs that both conned T at 121. Without Kupofried 6300 exp, 1620 cp. With Kupofried it was 6930 exp and 1728 cp. This is 10% exp and 6.6666666666666666666666666% cp gain. So I believe that means CP is effected by Kupo.

No idea how much cp bonus you have but it might add together with some others so might be 10% as well

[Kanriel]

No idea how much cp bonus you have but it might add together with some others so might be 10% as well

Full RoE's done, 38% back, up through the 355 or whatever Gift...not sure where bonus' start to overlap.

[Hitou]

Man Pjeuje is an odd whm. Does a good job curing and hasting and shell/protectraing everyone so that's nice. But as far as I can tell only uses afflatus misery for the bonus to auspice lol. And mine wont ws at all

He'll use esuna too. I don't remember if he has to melee to get TP or if he has regain like Apururu, but he'll use Nott when MP is low and I think he'll stay out of melee range unless you bring the mob to him like kupipi.

On the topic of Kupofried, did anyone test if he still gives 10% EXP bonus when the double campaign was off for 2 days? I forgot to check and I'm just curious if his "dedication" is affected by the campaign the same way rings are. I'd be unsurprised if he's only supposed to give 5% normally since it is SE.

[dasva]

He'll use esuna too. I don't remember if he has to melee to get TP or if he has regain like Apururu, but he'll use Nott when MP is low and I think he'll stay out of melee range unless you bring the mob to him like kupipi.

On the topic of Kupofried, did anyone test if he still gives 10% EXP bonus when the double campaign was off for 2 days? I forgot to check and I'm just curious if his "dedication" is affected by the campaign the same way rings are. I'd be unsurprised if he's only supposed to give 5% normally since it is SE.

Yeah I think it's because I have other whms in the pt that he wont esuna. they are just faster than him

[BerenTebogo]

Is there a way to make trusts path a certain way? So far I'm like 50% on being able to engage AA GK and keep them out of Dragonfall range. Sometimes they're cool and stay behind me, other times it's like they're trying to get directly up his ass.

[Teryu]

I know right? It's the absolute most infuriating thing ever about trusts.

[arus2001]

From what I could tell, until you engage a mob, it's almost like they /follow the next person up the party list. So, the first one summoned would be the player, the next one would follow the first trust, and so on. While I was solo leveling RUN in Kuftal, my tank got petrified by a lizard and as one might expect, just kinda stood there dumb for the next minute or so. I'd moved on to the next mob up the path, but none of my other trusts followed until the petrification wore off.

That said, it might be wisest to put your longest range trust first if you're if you're attempting to wiggle them around mob AoE. The rest is probably a matter of repositioning on your part, including disengaging if there's some terrain you can catch them on.

[BerenTebogo]

From what I could tell, until you engage a mob, it's almost like they /follow the next person up the party list. So, the first one summoned would be the player, the next one would follow the first trust, and so on. While I was solo leveling RUN in Kuftal, my tank got petrified by a lizard and as one might expect, just kinda stood there dumb for the next minute or so. I'd moved on to the next mob up the path, but none of my other trusts followed until the petrification wore off.

That said, it might be wisest to put your longest range trust first if you're if you're attempting to wiggle them around mob AoE. The rest is probably a matter of repositioning on your part, including disengaging if there's some terrain you can catch them on.

Nope, Ulmia hugged my ass as tight as possible when summoning her first. Oh well.

[Yuella]

I was leveling in ordelle's and i summoned kupofried last. I fought a buds bunny around a corner and i lost kupofried's exp bonus because he doesn't follow me close enough (stuck behind pieuje who i summoned 3rd)

[BerenTebogo]

I wish I knew how to take videos. I wish I could show you what fuck Qultada does in these fights. He starts of fine, out of range, then he rolls and as he rolls he starts sliding around without moving, sliding around Star Sibyll. As he continues to roll he continues to slide all zig-zag like without moving his feet.

He does this all the way until he is just inside dragonfall range, just in time to get fucking one-shotted. It's so silly that it's honestly started just making me laugh. I've had 1-2 fights where he's never moved at all and didn't die, others he electric slides his way straight into a facefuck.

[gaira]

edit: already addressed order in summoning, nvm.

[Damane]

maybe queltada is trying to hit all with rolls!!!

[vm0d]

can't trade in cipher: mildaurion. tried several times and thought i was doing something wrong (somehow). traded cipher: kupofried and that was fine. changed zones, relogged, still not able to trade.

i can't seem to find any information on it, so has anyone had this happen and resolved it. if so, how? thanks in advance.

nvm... can't trade in ciphers you've already traded before!