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    When soloing Avatar Ns on Red Mage, I've been using Ulmia/Kupipi/Brygid/Moogle, and I've been noticing that Ulmia's positioning behavior depends on whether Kupipi is alive, for some reason. Normally, she stands out of range with Kupipi when I position the avatar so that ga spells don't hit them, but if Kupipi dies to Astral Flow, Ulmia suddenly changes her mind on where she wants to position, and runs in to melee range, where she gets oneshotted.

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    This is probablly due to the positioning of the trusts which is based on the order you summon them since they try to maintain some linear distance between each other. When an earlier summoned trust dies the remaining ones move up closer to the pty leader. A side effect of this is if you summon Kupofried (or any other geo trust) 4th in order they tend to occasionally be out of range to where you are out of their aura but you can also use it to make sure trusts who don't run up into melee range of the mob stay even further out of aoe.

    Edit: A Number of previous posts discuss the quirks that have recently been noticed with trust order/positioning since the total was increased to 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitou View Post
    I don't remember if he has to melee to get TP or if he has regain like Apururu, but he'll use Nott when MP is low and
    So finally got him to use Nott... but took forever. Like he ran out of mp, then ferrous coffin did and even Karaha started getting low before he used it. And all that happened was he gained 0 hp <.<

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    In the log or actuality? Cause the MP from Nott/Dagan doesn't show up in the log. Also, 3 whms? lol I think they'd all trip over themselves casting Cure V/VI and waste MP curing for 0 a lot of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitou View Post
    In the log or actuality? Cause the MP from Nott/Dagan doesn't show up in the log. Also, 3 whms? lol I think they'd all trip over themselves casting Cure V/VI and waste MP curing for 0 a lot of the time.
    In the log. Wasn't watching close enough to see if any amount of mp was restored but the mp was still sub 200.

    And yeah they do trip over themselves a tad but there different AIs often have them doing different things as well so often only 1-2 of them are using a cure in a particular instance as some will decide hey blinda is more important than cures. And often actually need 2 by the time the cures go off when I'm reiving. Also let's Ferrous raise my mule which for some reason is always the one to die first despite having almost the same defensive stats and it doing less dmg. And this is just my mage reive setup so songs and rolls and tanks matter little

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    Ah. Well, I think Pieuje has around 1k mp and at 1000 TP Nott will restore 15% MP so 150~ sounds about right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitou View Post
    Ah. Well, I think Pieuje has around 1k mp and at 1000 TP Nott will restore 15% MP so 150~ sounds about right.
    It was at 3000 tp though... he sat there with 3k for several minutes at low mp not using it and then had no noticeable change in mp

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    Its not much, but Kupofried's bonus will extend to the CP granted from SKCNM's, if this wasnt known already.

    7152 for Anticians on D
    7632 after summoning Kupofried

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    That's neat, does that mean that commitment will also work?

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    Yeah everything works on those just not the RoE bonus from doing it

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    Do geo trust bubbles apply to pets?

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    Step 1: Summon Pet. type /checkparam <pet>
    Step 2: Summon Geo Trust with defense, attack, or accuracy buff. type /checkparam <pet>
    Step 3: ???
    Step 4: Profit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fwahm View Post
    When soloing Avatar Ns on Red Mage, I've been using Ulmia/Kupipi/Brygid/Moogle, and I've been noticing that Ulmia's positioning behavior depends on whether Kupipi is alive, for some reason. Normally, she stands out of range with Kupipi when I position the avatar so that ga spells don't hit them, but if Kupipi dies to Astral Flow, Ulmia suddenly changes her mind on where she wants to position, and runs in to melee range, where she gets oneshotted.
    They follow the leader more or less, If you summon say, Kupipi first and Ulmia Second, Ulmia follows Kupipi so if she stays back so does Ulmia. This works the same for all trusts unless they have an Engage in Melee mode like Tanks and Melee DPS.

    Its why if one of your people gets Slept, Petrified or Bound, the other will just stand there looking stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fwahm View Post
    Do geo trust bubbles apply to pets?
    What Trumpy means to say is "no"

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    So, my understanding of Apururu is that he's got a large Regain effect and will use a TP move to restore his MP as he loses it. But mine just sits there....with 3000 TP....and like 3 MP because he cure bombed all of his MP away on Cure V's. People keep telling me mine is broken or something. Has anyone else had this experience? Can it be fixed?

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    It's a she :O

    Anyway I had this happen in the past, no idea what causes it and what fixed it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgaer View Post
    So, my understanding of Apururu is that he's got a large Regain effect and will use a TP move to restore his MP as he loses it. But mine just sits there....with 3000 TP....and like 3 MP because he cure bombed all of his MP away on Cure V's. People keep telling me mine is broken or something. Has anyone else had this experience? Can it be fixed?
    Has an insane regain, and uses nott. Haven't read up on the thread for a while so i'm not sure if it's been posted, but I've had her convert a couple of times also.

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    Yeah pretty sure it was mentioned she has convert a few pages back. I haven't run into her running out of MP and never using a WS personally but it definitely sounds like a glitch and hopefully will be fixed in the June update.

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    Rongelouts
    War uses berserk and warcry has DA. Tongue lash special diagloue "Knave!" short aoe terror 10sec or less, sword ws savage, red lotus, and seraph blade.
    Only interacts with naja.

    Might have somesort of beast killer effect, haven't seen it:
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    松井:今月のフェイスは「ロンジェルツ」です。
    彼専用の特性として、獣人に対するキラー効果を持っています。
    Edit: Ok its beastmen killer effect.

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    L0L he is literally racist.
    I love it.

    And Apururu converts???
    Never seen that yet.... Though I must confess that my earlier prognosis that she won't haste but player was erroneous.
    Because now she does that for me... >_>
    Maybe it's personal standing based? Perhaps unity rank? (We weren't at #1 and I had JUST got access to her....)

    Or maybe she was just feeling a little homophobic and didn't want to haste Mayakov?
    ;p

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