Trusts

[Not Kuno]

The AoE heals and waltzes technically aren't healing magic.

Pretty funny little oversight.

Yeah. Anything that cures that isn't white magic will do it. Blu spells work also. Balamor also has an absorb HP WS which he uses to heal himself.

And also for anyone who didn't know, his regular attacks are magical attacks (dark based). Damage will be shit on stuff that resists magic or dark (undead, etc), but on things weak to magic its normal attacks are very strong.

[bungiefan]

I can't get the mumor II cipher. The evnt just keeps giving me cosmic designs, no costume, and no cipher.

[Tidis]

I can't get the mumor II cipher. The evnt just keeps giving me cosmic designs, no costume, and no cipher.

Are you wearing the Argent/Starlet set when you do the event? That is a requirement to get the trust as a reward.

[bungiefan]

I don't know where to get the set, the moogle wouldn't give it to me after 12 synchs of the event, and the nearby vendor moogles don't sell it.

[Kainstryder]

You need to 4/4 the Firesday Night Fever part sync/dance, do that and then just run to the moogle. Bastok Markets, the moogle near the MH/Gobbie Box.

[Protey]

Anyone know how to make Nanaa Mihgo despoil consistently? I try to melee the mob to 50% and then turn around, but she doesn't always despoil, sometimes it'll be every mob, sometimes she'll go 10 mobs without despoiling.

[Teryu]

Well Despoil is on a 5 min timer.

[Protey]

Well Despoil is on a 5 min timer.

I know that, but if she doesn't even use it once, how do you make her use it.

[Protey]

ok I think I figured it out. When you turn around, you cross in front of her and past her.

[Trumpy]

Wait, why would your position matter for despoil?

[Protey]

Wait, why would your position matter for despoil?

Because just attacking the mob and turning around she doesn't despoil consistently. While very rarely she will despoil without you doing anything, if you do certain acts she will despoil.

[dasva]

Sounds more like something else like mob hp or her position etc

[michaeldue]

2 important questions:

1. What is the best trust to use if you are PLD and want someone that focuses on removing silence from you? Aparuru does remove silence but only rarely when she is not busy focusing on healing and other stuff.

2. Does anyone have a smart way of getting August / your PLD trust to NOT stand close / next to your healer trusts?

[Sechs]

1) Ferreous Coffin and Karaha Baruha are usually very fast in taking debuffs off. Not sure if they're faster than Apururu
2) Try to summon august as first trust, and healer as last (5th trust). Make sure to summon one of the healers to do not engage in fight (for instance Ferreous Coffin, Karaha Baruha and Mihli Ahliapoh, to name 3, do engage in combat)

[Kensagaku]

Part of the problem, I noticed, is that Trusts have a very set range at which they will stand. I was soloing some VW (in this case, Bhishani, as I never got around to getting a Sheltered Ring), and I was tanking rather than using a Trust to tank so that I could /fume to change weaknesses, as it didn't work with August tanking. I tried to move out of the way so that I was facing the mob away from my Trusts and running a decent distance off to ensure they weren't hit by Silencega and the like, but once I hit a certain distance, they would follow and stop at that same distance. I didn't get a chance to measure how far they were, but they were always in range for -ga debuffs (but not -ga nukes), or Kaggen's Bile and Phlegm attacks. So even if you position them carefully, they'll still be in range of the "big" moves.

[dasva]

As far as getting support trusts to focus on what you want... somewhat broad strokes but in general the more things a trust can do (outside of oddball things on longer timers or tp dependent things and such) the less focused they will be especially on nas/erases since those tend to be lowest priority. Like that's my main gripe with Koru... he does so much he is often not doing what I want so if I don't need the healing I'll use Arciela. Part of why Ferrous is so good at what he does is because all he does is single target cures, remove enfeebles, hastes usually 1 person and smashes face... and the occasional raise if someone else in the pt dies. Karaha is similar except also pro/shells and hastes more people but no raise.

Another way to ensure fast debuff removal is have more than 1 trust able to do so. There will be some overlap in the nas and cures but you'll also hit times when 1 support is busy doing 1 the other will hit the other thing.

As far as staggering your trusts... after doing a ton of puppet in peril with crazy changing hate I've found that you can somewhat position them after the engage. Like the non engaging support will generally stay put once you hit until the mob is way far away but the tank will first try to regain hate if the mob moves then run up to it. So you could engage grab hate and pull it a bit. Also summon the support last. They tend to run around lined up in order summoned so if a melee is behind them he will jocky his way ahead which will often make them move up a little

[Fwahm]

Part of the problem, I noticed, is that Trusts have a very set range at which they will stand. I was soloing some VW (in this case, Bhishani, as I never got around to getting a Sheltered Ring), and I was tanking rather than using a Trust to tank so that I could /fume to change weaknesses, as it didn't work with August tanking. I tried to move out of the way so that I was facing the mob away from my Trusts and running a decent distance off to ensure they weren't hit by Silencega and the like, but once I hit a certain distance, they would follow and stop at that same distance. I didn't get a chance to measure how far they were, but they were always in range for -ga debuffs (but not -ga nukes), or Kaggen's Bile and Phlegm attacks. So even if you position them carefully, they'll still be in range of the "big" moves.

Most trusts that don't engage are programmed to follow the trust in front of them. Thus, they will usually follow you to an extent as you reposition a mob in a trickle down effect.

However, you can abuse this with the few trusts that are programmed to stand still when you engage, like Kupipi. For example, let's say you summon August, Kupipi, and Ulmia in that order. Assuming you don't move so far that Kupipi can't cast on you, she will never move once you engage. Because you summon Ulmia afterwards, she follows Kupipi, and thus she will not move either. In this way, Ulmia can be kept safe from standard range AoEs. The only caveat is that if Kupipi dies somehow, Ulmia is now directly behind August, so she was run straight up to melee range.

This also means that you should summon bubble trusts early; if Kupofried or the like gets stuck behind Kupipi, for example, he can easily sit too far for his bubble to hit you.

[Trumpy]

I swear that Koru moru used to did use Protect and Shell single target spells first thing unless I had them already before he did much else but now I cant seem to get him to use them at all. Am I smoking crack?

[dasva]

I swear that Koru moru used to did use Protect and Shell single target spells first thing unless I had them already before he did much else but now I cant seem to get him to use them at all. Am I smoking crack?

Never did for me though arciela does so maybe you thinking other rdm?

[nivlakian]

I swear that Koru moru used to did use Protect and Shell single target spells first thing unless I had them already before he did much else but now I cant seem to get him to use them at all. Am I smoking crack?

He still casts them for me, but they are lower on his priority list after relevant joba have Phalanx II, Haste II and Refresh II it seems. I can't recall if it was specifically changed at some point, but I assume it's so he's not trying to cast those spells if there is already a WHM in party who will prioritize getting those buffs up if everyone's HP is ok.