Ark Angel Battles: The Second Coming

[Martel]

*Arrogance Incarnate duh...don't know why I said Epitome of Arrogance, I was hit by Arrogance Incarnate like 4x today ~_~. I wonder why it was changed, the animation looks similar, didn't know damage was split, that's good news.

Kinda like this?
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I think there was a fourth a bit before those three... She was pissed.

[Sechs]

[16:09:11]Ark Angel HM uses Mijin Gakure.
[16:09:11]Martel takes 88 points of damage.

No scherzo, no Sacrosanctity. Just Aegis and Shellra V.

And that was on Very Difficult?
If that's so I don't see reason to gimp the PLD taking away a song (a Madrigal, I suppose) to stick an useless Scherzo on him.
Just have the PLD swap from Ochain to Aegis under a certain % and everything should be fine.

[Fake]

And that was on Very Difficult?
If that's so I don't see reason to gimp the PLD taking away a song (a Madrigal, I suppose) to stick an useless Scherzo on him.
Just have the PLD swap from Ochain to Aegis under a certain % and everything should be fine.

If you're using pld and rng strat there is 0 reason to use scherzo on 4/5 fights, no idea why you think there would be. This is assuming your pld has both aegis and ochain.

Aegis: ~5% HM, ~25% MR, During Manafront for TT (not a requirement)
For everthing else, theres ochain.

[Martel]

That was on Very Difficult mode.

[Fwahm]

SP HP ranges from my experience:

Hume
Mighty Strikes: Uses it very often the entire fight.
Brazen Rush: Starts using it at around 20%, uses multiple times based on time after that.
Mijin Gakure: Uses around 5%
Mikage: He uses around 30% after using Utsusemi: San (I believe)

Elvaan
Benediction: She uses it around 50%
Sacrosanctity: Haven't seen it
Invincible: Uses around 60-70% after Benediction
Intervene: Starts using commonly after about 50% after the first benediction

Tarutaru
Blood Weapon: Uses at about 60%
Soul Enslavement: Uses at about 30-40%
Manafont: Uses at about 20%
Subtle Sorcery: Never seen it.

Mithra
Perfect Dodge: Uses at about 60-70%
Larceny: Uses whenever the target has a stealable SP.
Charm: Uses at about 30%
Familiar: Haven't seen it.
Unleash: Haven't seen it.

Galka
Meikyo Shisui: Uses regularly the whole fight.
Yaegasumi: Haven't seen it.
Spirit Surge: Haven't seen it.
Fly High: Haven't seen it.

I have not done every fight on VD, so some of the ones I haven't seen might appear there only.

[Darkmagi]

Something fun for people to try, ninja actually makes a very decent DD on these fights. I was able to keep up with and even beat 2 very solid MNKs on VD galka using the 119 mithra katana/eminence katana. Especially on fights without conals, so you can make proper use of innin and have your other 2 DD line up. Having 5 shadows really helped with survivability too.

[Ihina]

I've seen manafont as early as 60%

[JSHidaka]

If you're using pld and rng strat there is 0 reason to use scherzo on 4/5 fights, no idea why you think there would be. This is assuming your pld has both aegis and ochain.

Aegis: ~5% HM, ~25% MR, During Manafront for TT (not a requirement)
For everthing else, theres ochain.

Well when I didVD HM @ ~7% or so, I went to a corner and Tenuto/Scherzon on me, when he did Mijin, only me and the PLD survived, I took ~1k damage and the pld, saw him near full HP,The RNG, COR, WHM and DRG died, they where something between 16-20" distance and still got hit by it.

It was my first time doing him in any difficulty, so next time I know to schernzo everyone.

[Tachi]

So far the exclusives drops from DM besides the earrings are :
Lentus Grip
Kyujutsugi
Seraphicaller
Divinator
Several AAs can drop the same type of item. Drop rate is not so bad in Normal, 1 Ear+1Unique Drop every 1-2 runs I will say.

[Fake]

Well when I didVD HM @ ~7% or so, I went to a corner and Tenuto/Scherzon on me, when he did Mijin, only me and the PLD survived, I took ~1k damage and the pld, saw him near full HP,The RNG, COR, WHM and DRG died, they where something between 16-20" distance and still got hit by it.

It was my first time doing him in any difficulty, so next time I know to schernzo everyone.

Or just use Sacrosanctity...

[Ophannus]

Mijin is either 30' or 40', like Astral Flow. It's pretty wide.

[Fwahm]

Mijin is only 20. I outrange it as a mage while still in range of healing the melees every time on AA HM.

[NynJa]

Mijin is either 30' or 40', like Astral Flow. It's pretty wide.

Yeah what kinda bad information is this? lol, its always been 20.

[Sechs]

Mijin is only 20. I outrange it as a mage while still in range of healing the melees every time on AA HM.

^ this.
I was in range of casting songs on the pld but didn't get hit from Mijin.

[Draylo]

So to the "PLD can sleep through tanking" these NMs, how are you dealing with skillchain on Hume? I was in caped -DT w/Ochain and he did Brazen Rush and used CDC 580 > CDC 1395 > 872 Light.

[NynJa]

Turtle up/learn to block

CDC hitting 1.4k means a couple hits went unblocked.

[Draylo]

No shit? Did you not read? I was in full -DT.

[Lyramion]

Get a bit more DT and use Eluder's Sachet ?

Really only thing I can think off to counteract big CDCs. Unless your -DT gear sacrifices DEF and Stats somewhere.

[Fake]

So to the "PLD can sleep through tanking" these NMs, how are you dealing with skillchain on Hume? I was in caped -DT w/Ochain and he did Brazen Rush and used CDC 580 > CDC 1395 > 872 Light.

By rotating JAs and using random deal/wildcard accordingly, but our PLD hasn't even had that problem without JAs up. Also its quite easy to range WS to avoid a skillchain if you're really struggling (we do this when MR doesn't use charm until after fealty x2 has worn off, between shdowbinds).

Defense also makes a huge difference and reverence gear is a massive upgrade over pre-adoulin capped DT sets. Several of the fights don't even require a whm or sch if your pld is sufficiently geared.

[dasva]

Also unless I'm missing something the amount of light dmg compared to the ending ws dmg suggests you weren't capped mdt. Also if you want to try more -crit rate there is always kaiser head. Flashing after first ws. Jas. Reprisal etc.