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  1. #441
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    pchan said ~15min. Seems like a whole lot harder than just leveling ninja or rng2win though.

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    yes but there is a lot of room for errors (unlike /NIN strategies) and you can replace MNK by any DDs since you have plenty of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdkuser View Post
    yes but there is a lot of room for errors (unlike /NIN strategies) and you can replace MNK by any DDs since you have plenty of time.
    Compared the rng strat there is a lot less room for error, your listed buffs also included 2 4song brds and 2 mnks with what probably equates to a shitload of +2 stones for extremely situational gear. Whilst I'm sure you can do it with less, this isn't really a testement to how melee setups are a decent alternative.

    You can spend 2 days gearing up 2 rngs and a pld and then proceed to sleep through all the fights, if you have a pld without aegis just bring a smn instead of cor for MR and have them not stack up on MDT gear to ensure scherzo/EA procs on cloudsplitter.

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    I do mithra with just scherzo and no aegis, isn't a problem with an attentive WHM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fake View Post
    Compared the rng strat there is a lot less room for error, your listed buffs also included 2 4song brds and 2 mnks with what probably equates to a shitload of +2 stones for extremely situational gear. Whilst I'm sure you can do it with less, this isn't really a testement to how melee setups are a decent alternative.

    You can spend 2 days gearing up 2 rngs and a pld and then proceed to sleep through all the fights, if you have a pld without aegis just bring a smn instead of cor for MR and have them not stack up on MDT gear to ensure scherzo/EA procs on cloudsplitter.
    The VD fights are a Trophy, something you do once for the fun and never again. They don't have exclusive equipement drops.

    So I could give you a counter argument that levelling ranger and PLD in two days just for one fight is pointless.

    And dont bring the box farming cause its stoped being worthwhile 2 weeks ago. I cant sell my pluton for 200k each. at this rate 6-boxed easy divine might is better money, and 4boxed ADL 2 times better.

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    I'm sure there are plenty of people still after equipment drops, which have a guarenteed 1 slot and a chance for a second only in VD.

    But yet again you're going to use french math to completely misrepresent how 1337 marrows gil is (as you or you PIC already did on ffxiah). I am not suggesting VD fights are the best source of gil in the game either, I am saying they are still relevant to anyone who still wants gear drops that aren't DM exclusive.

    The only reason you're so anti-VD is that it wasn't completely compliant with your mnk/war onry mantra. Similar to how you cried about delve for ages because you couldn't beat tojil with 6 chars.

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    dunno if asked/answered before but can you lot the drops from outside the bc? have like 10 kyujustugi already, so looking to sell some.

  8. #448
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    Quote Originally Posted by macross View Post
    dunno if asked/answered before but can you lot the drops from outside the bc? have like 10 kyujustugi already, so looking to sell some.
    You can sell drops.

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    Minor correction, difficult can double drop. Got a anahera sword and pants off a D elvaan before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdkuser View Post
    Otronif is augmented with -4% PDT/+10 acc.
    I'm pretty sure the people with gil pooling out of their assholes would laugh at the idea of going for capped stats on 5 pieces of otronif at 700k a pop, considering you could easily go through 2 stacks of +2 stones and not even see a capped PDT or accuracy, let alone capped PDT and accuracy. So having a strategy that relies entirely on this seems beyond fucked up and borderline insanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fake View Post
    I'm sure there are plenty of people still after equipment drops, which have a guarenteed 1 slot and a chance for a second only in VD.
    D have garranteed 1 slot and can double drop....

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    what essential pieces of gear should I be looking at for a non-relic RNG to be AA ready? I'm assuming it's possible to do them without Namas/Coronach with the use of Decoy Shot since there's been talk of having a RNG ready to do these in 2 days.

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    Eminent bow/gun or shark xbow. As much snapshot gear as you care to get. 5/5 119AF is fine and doubles up as ws gear. acc focused accessories to whatever budget you have.

    2 119relic gun rngs who don't play like shit will dispatch anything but the GK in well under 15mins. Less geared just makes the fight take longer.

    Cor can use RD > WC > RD as required to keep decoy on as much as possible

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    So idk if it's been reported but it seems having the DM gem wont let you enter the regular AA fights.

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    Do you mean the regular Level 75 AA fights? Cause I have entered the iLvl AA fights while having the DM Gem in possession. Its possible I didn't initiate the fight, but I have definitely participated in them.

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    I meant the ilvl ones. Well heres what happened we had someone who had the DM gem and it kept telling us that we couldn't enter. Had some weird message too like you were blocked from entering. Soon as we dropped him bam could enter.

    Also have we got approximate DTs for each difficulty yet? Or at least for normal?

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    I always have all KI (including the one for DM) and have never had an issue with entering with my party. If the message was "You cannot enter the battlefield at present. Please wait a little longer.", then that just means all the available arenas are currently in use.

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    Either they had the wrong KI for the AA you were doing (or didn't have the KI period) or it was just a huge coincidence with a slot for entry opening up RIGHT as you dropped him.

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    Has there been any refinement in kill order for the actual 119 DM fight?

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    See heres the thing he checked for the KI several times. And before he zoned in we were getting the normal you have to wait message. But when he was in the party in zone we got a totally different message saying we were blocked not that we had to wait for one to open up

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