Ark Angel Battles: The Second Coming

[NynJa]

pretty sure your friend fucked something up, because my friend has had DM fight KI on him for the past week, and I'm pretty sure we did singles last night for my mules.

[dasva]

Hmmm now he is shouting for regular DM fight... maybe having not done that messes it up?

[Prothescar]

Has anyone tried using 1000 needles on D/VD AAs to determine their innate -DT values?

[Martel]

Has anyone tried using 1000 needles on D/VD AAs to determine their innate -DT values?

Huh.... now that I think about it... It can't be -DT. Even on VD fights, Atonement deals full dmg. So breath dmg at least is exempt.

[Prothescar]

My guess is that it's just a huge amount of level correction; these things are likely a much higher level than anything else in the game judging by their content level. Would need to check both BLU and BST 1000 needles to be able to confirm that they have no PDT or MDT, but yeah. Level correction makes more sense to me.

[Fwahm]

Couldn't it just be massive amounts of defense? Like >3000 for VD?

[Prothescar]

Hasn't it been stated that people have managed to reach what they believe to be capped ratio on RNG? I vaguely recall it.

[dasva]

Hasn't it been stated that people have managed to reach what they believe to be capped ratio on RNG? I vaguely recall it.

Well people generally think they hit the cap on ranged attacks because each hit does the same and increasing ratt doesn't do anything..... however in the middle there is a small spot where max and min pdif are the same and don't change as well.


Also part of the reason I asked in the first place was because I've been playing around with intervene a bit and the dmg appears to be more or less just shield bash times a bunch. So I was a bit surprised when I did 2192 to a normal AA since I'd read on here they have DT

[dasva]

Also should note that fealty really does help with mijin which some people might not know.

Spoiler: show

Most of that is obviously aegis (and I don't think they were using mdt/dt gear) but still looks like fealty at least cut it in half

[JSHidaka]

Could just use Scherzo.. or the whm JA...

[dasva]

True though it seems they forgot lol. Also no brd. And like I said I don't think they even had mdt gear.

[Lyramion]

Another thing I noticed for HUM is you can stall around 6% and wait for him to activate Brazen Rush. Then you have 30 seconds to burn him down as far as possible since he won't mijin during it.

[Ophannus]

Didn't know Aegis worked on Mijin since it's breath damage.

[Martel]

Didn't know Aegis worked on Mijin since it's breath damage.

Mijin's not breath DMG. If it were, the Shell/Aegis wouldn't work on it. It'd actually be pretty hard to deal with.

Now say, Self-destruct, for example, is breath dmg. Which is why you can still see 5k dmg on stuff like clusters in dynamis tav, even wearing Aegis.

[dasva]

I wish aegis worked on breath dmg.

[Martel]

I wish aegis worked on breath dmg.

Wouldn't that be amazing? /want

[dasva]

Wouldn't that be amazing? /want

Seriously. It's just sad to be watching all this dmg being reduced left and right taking tons of stuff easy then bam one shotted by a breath attack. Then again you could argue that is the niche use for RUN lol

[Martel]

Hmmm, but I think the only relevant breath atk right now would be Arrogance Incarnate. And as far as I know, we still haven't confirmed an element for it. So I'm still not certain if Vallation is even applying. I've only Tried PLD/RUN, which only gets -10% per rune. And with as much is AI varies, it's hard to tell if it's working. <,<

I suppose RUN/NIN would work ok as a DD tank, assuming you were one of multiple DDs. But I don't think could be the sole tank, like for RNG strat, atm. Depending on how well SE buffs RUN's physical defenses, that might change.

[gaira]

on the subject of mijin, intervene works great, reduced alliance dmg to 0 in a DM last night.

[Martel]

on the subject of mijin, intervene works great, reduced alliance dmg to 0 in a DM last night.

Ohh, an excellent confirmation of M.ACC reduction on Intervene then.

Also, and not entirely random aside... Intervene page on BG Wiki could use some work. And intervene isn't even listed on the PLD page.