Ark Angel Battles: The Second Coming

[NynJa]

I wonder since the drops do techically drop off the AA's, if TH plays an impact? Perhaps SE's way to address "TH is useless in BCNMs"

[Khiinroye]

Well, all 5 AA dropped 5 items. The upgrade mat was in the 3rd slot all 4 times it dropped. The first slot was the slacks and crystal clusters, the 2nd slot was crystal clusters / divinator, the fourth slot was scrolls, and the 5th slot was the pluton / boulder / beitetsu.

[NynJa]

So you're thinking Dring/Pixie type situation?

[Draylo]

That fight was only 18min because Martel forgot the KI and had to warp out and get them(You can still enter if you don't have KI as long as you're in the party at the time the first person enters as long as you don't engage the NM). I'd say the fight takes around 10-12min using 2 RNG as DD.

In terms of difficulty using the RNG method I'd say it's something like TT>>>EV>>MR>GK>HM.

TT is just a little asshole with sleepga on its nearest target(usually a RNG) and then meteor right after. On the bright side it only has access to meteor when Manafont is up, which it seems to only use once per a fight. We managed to get it to 2% tonight, so I expect to win soon, but it's certainly the hardest of them all with all the warping/running around killing RNG's DPS.



Martel can answer this way better than I can, so maybe he will chime in, but I believe Aegis is needed for TT, MR(cloudsplitter mode) for the very hard BCs with RNG setup.

Are you buffing with outside support before you enter? Just don't see how you didnt use preludes or any special ACC gear and didn't have any problems hitting the hume. We went with two 119 Anni RNG's and it took us quite a while to get the hume down. They have good gear and I was on PLD. They had hitrate problems anytime prelude dropped. Even with buffs up all the time it took us a while to kill him in very hard with just two rng.

[Fake]

MR is more evasive than HM and with Non-2hr'd preludes and hunters roll our rng was able to get 80%+ hit rate, capped under SV obviously.

But you should be using full accuracy gear for these.

[mdkuser]

You can get weapons off Difficult mode so no exclusive pool for the very difficult modes. Proof:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...psd83bdf29.png

[doctorugh]

Does anyone know if Ark Angel - EV's weaponskill (Aggrogance something) is physical or magic based and if magic, what element?

I wanted to see how easy, very easy mode was and went to solo to BLU. Full PDT gear -50), Cocoon up, along with mag def bonus (20 ish) and -30% MDT and took 2200 damage from this.......

I sort of assumed that "very easy" might mean soloable. I thought it could be light based and was going to try /RUN with Tenebrae up but was wanting feedback.


Also he's not stunable on "very easy" at least by Sudden Lunge.

[NynJa]

Very Easy means minimum of duo

HM was CDCing my mnk for 1-1.5k (no DT set), thats not with MS up.

[Draylo]

MR is more evasive than HM and with Non-2hr'd preludes and hunters roll our rng was able to get 80%+ hit rate, capped under SV obviously.

But you should be using full accuracy gear for these.

He said he does it in 10m with no acc build or prelude. Wondering how.

[dasva]

I sort of assumed that "very easy" might mean soloable. I thought it could be light based and was going to try /RUN with Tenebrae up but was wanting feedback.

It's really more of a comparative term. Like very easy compared to the harder difficulties. And would probably be pretty easy if you had ilvl gear comparative to the ilvl of the very hard versions. Sadly such gear doesn't exist yet

[EjinCaitsith]

He said he does it in 10m with no acc build or prelude. Wondering how.

Does your BRD have 99 Ghorn(I didn't say no prelude, I said none SV'd prelude)? Did the RNG use sushi? We had no Pre-SV songs for that fight since we had to wait after entering. When SV did wear off from the main BRD, my acc was still capped in my normal ranged TP gear with yoichi.

Edit: And we had hunter's roll. Like all of the other fights.

[Fival]

You can get weapons off Difficult mode so no exclusive pool for the very difficult modes. Proof:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...psd83bdf29.png

I would have really guessed that the ninja (HM) would have dropped that katana, guess they fooled me.

[Draylo]

Does your BRD have 99 Ghorn(I didn't say no prelude, I said none SV'd prelude)? Did the RNG use sushi? We had no Pre-SV songs for that fight since we had to wait after entering. When SV did wear off from the main BRD, my acc was still capped in my normal ranged TP gear with yoichi.

Edit: And we had hunter's roll. Like all of the other fights.

Ghorn and four song bard. Sushi for food. I'll parse their dmg next time but 10m seems like a huge difference.

[Tachi]

Does anyone know if Ark Angel - EV's weaponskill (Aggrogance something) is physical or magic based and if magic, what element?

AoE Spirits Within with damage divided amongst targets.

[EjinCaitsith]

Ghorn and four song bard. Sushi for food. I'll parse their dmg next time but 10m seems like a huge difference.

Oh, well, our main bard has carn, so we get around 9min40seconds of SV songs. Probably only had to fight it for 1-2min without.

I was only trying to stress how much easier it is compared to the others. Times will obviously vary by groups.

[Fival]

Did Very Hard GK with PLD/NIN, MNK/NIN(Oat), WAR/NIN(Conq), BRD, COR, WHM, took 16 minutes and 6 seconds, so i'm pretty sure any good DD can do this with NIN sub, and a little bit of focus.

[EjinCaitsith]

TT, Very Hard, RNG/NIN x2 PLD WHM BRD COR, USA5 - France0.

http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/5687/7yy3.png

I guess we were unlucky/sucked last night, because it was extremely easy today.

[macross]

Weapons can drop off normal even. Prob higher chance the higher difficulty?

What really sucks is I finished 3x 119 REM sunday before this patch, and everything is cheap and easy mode now.

[Prothescar]

If it works like other hard mode BCs then yes, the only difference between lower difficulties and higher difficulties = drop rates. Is there any actual reason to do DM? To me it seems like you need 3x the people and 10x the headache for the same shit you can get for single fights.

[Sechs]

Aren't some drops DM-exclusive? That's what I (wrongly?) assumed at least. Like divinator?
It can drop from the normal HM single fight as well?