Get raped and pregnant in Michigan? Hope you paid your rape insurance premiums!

[tyven]

wow that's much cheaper than I would have expected. Would love to see Cream Soda's reaction to an ER bill. LOL

[Mojo]

$500 for a life altering medical procedure insanely cheap although it should be treated similarly to other medical insurance claims. If the procedure is 'elective' (no endangerment to the woman, no, incest, no rape, etc. etc.) then it shouldn't be covered unless you're putting money into your premium for it.

[archibaldcrane]

1. Raldo said delivery easily costs more, which is what I was responding to.

2. Considering that in less than a month all women can get that insurance (since it will no longer be a pre-existing condition) I find this largely irrelevant.

3. Again, women who abort for financial reasons are probably not going to be able to afford $500 as is.

1. Delivery EASILY costs more. Your post about a $500 delivery is not the sum total of the costs lol.
2. Not all insurance plans are the same. Some have deductibles upwards of $6000, making the cost of delivery highly relevant.
3. $500 is definitely an amount of money that could prevent someone from getting a needed abortion, I agree.

[tyven]

if someone is preggers and can't come up with half a rack in the first 3 months that baby is doomed anyway.

[Dimmauk]

if someone is preggers and can't come up with half a rack in the first 3 months that baby is doomed anyway.

Cut out Cable and Cell phone for 3 months so you can cut out a baby in 3 months.

[Ksandra]

1. Delivery EASILY costs more. Your post about a $500 delivery is not the sum total of the costs lol.
2. Not all insurance plans are the same. Some have deductibles upwards of $6000, making the cost of delivery highly relevant.
3. $500 is definitely an amount of money that could prevent someone from getting a needed abortion, I agree.

yearly deductibles are separate from labor fees. Total cost to a patient is irrelevant. We are talking about what the patients pays.

[SephYuyX]

I was expecting 1300~2300 price range, 500 is a joke lol.

[hey]

I was expecting 1300~2300 price range, 500 is a joke lol.

Well, for you anyway.

[Cream Soda]

wow that's much cheaper than I would have expected. Would love to see Cream Soda's reaction to an ER bill. LOL

There's a reason why I went to McDonalds(Was funny to see how everyone looked at me when I walked in) instead of the ER when I did this

Spoiler: show

and that wasn't even the primary injury. My head hit the ground, but the car hit me in the legs while pedaling. Lol my knees hurt so damn bad, I didn't care about the head injury.

I don't do hospitals.

GDI I hate how I looked in those pics. Can see the fat in my face lol.

[Odin'sLaw]

There's a reason why I went to McDonalds(Was funny to see how everyone looked at me when I walked in) instead of the ER when I did this

Spoiler: show

and that wasn't even the primary injury. My head hit the ground, but the car hit me in the legs while pedaling. Lol my knees hurt so damn bad, I didn't care about the head injury.

I don't do hospitals.

GDI I hate how I looked in those pics. Can see the fat in my face lol.

i believe the medical term is Swelling O.o

[Salodin]

Cut out Cable and Cell phone for 3 months so you can cut out a baby in 3 months.

Laughed out loud. Thanks, repeating this every time the costs of abortions come up.

[Kohan]

It's funny, because I had absolutely no idea whether you would think $500~ was cheap or expensive lol.

I see it as cheap, but then again I cut my finger and got a couple stitches and all told it's going to cost me, AFTER insurance, around $2500.

Of course, you're not of the group whom such legislation would most severely affect. It's another case of letting the poor stay poor, and making medical care a privilege rather than a right.

Well, that, and the whole "we can't kill God's babies" bullshit. (But we can starve or otherwise deprive them after they're born. That's cool.)

[AidenCarby]

400 bucks and a month of no sex. Not sure if it was the right decision looking back but w/e.

[Serra]

Of course, you're not of the group whom such legislation would most severely affect. It's another case of letting the poor stay poor, and making medical care a privilege rather than a right.

Well, that, and the whole "we can't kill God's babies" bullshit. (But we can starve or otherwise deprive them after they're born. That's cool.)

This is one of the things that really really pisses me off. "We want the government to step in to make sure you have this child because all life is sacred, but once it's born, screw government help, it's up to you to pull yourself up by your bootstraps to take care of it."

[RKenshin]

$500 for a life altering medical procedure insanely cheap although it should be treated similarly to other medical insurance claims. If the procedure is 'elective' (no endangerment to the woman, no, incest, no rape, etc. etc.) then it shouldn't be covered unless you're putting money into your premium for it.

Why is only one path of a two-way street considered 'elective'? Especially when one path (delivery) has far more life-altering consequences and obligations than the other.

No matter how you look at it, it's a choice to do one thing (abortion) or the other (delivery). Why isn't delivery 'elective' if abortion is?

If costs were the true concern, then if anything the pregnancy would be the elective because it can typically cost $15-$30k. But this isn't about the costs, it's about limiting choices.

[Tyrath]

No you don't understand, it's okay to infringe on women's reproductive freedom, because men think it's cheap.

Whoa whoa whoa. Calm your horses. I was talking about the price of abortions because Archi commented that he wasn't sure if CS would view that as cheap or expensive. I didn't say anything about the law itself. The law is stupid.

But thanks for making the jump from one point to another.

[Salodin]

Hey tyrath, how was that tornado?

[ronin sparthos]

This is one of the things that really really pisses me off. "We want the government to step in to make sure you have this child because all life is sacred, but once it's born, screw government help, it's up to you to pull yourself up by your bootstraps to take care of it."

How else are the wealthy to get their tributes to play in the poverty games?

Well it's that or the people who feel God is going to ragequit (again) when he sees his mailbox full of return to sender babies he took all his time crafting out in the cloud workshop. If you recall, last time he sent Noah on an adventure to be a Pokemon master then decided to drown everyone. If we get a meteor thrown our way, just remember it's fueled on the souls of dead babies.

[Mojo]

Why is only one path of a two-way street considered 'elective'? Especially when one path (delivery) has far more life-altering consequences and obligations than the other.

No matter how you look at it, it's a choice to do one thing (abortion) or the other (delivery). Why isn't delivery 'elective' if abortion is?

If costs were the true concern, then if anything the pregnancy would be the elective because it can typically cost $15-$30k. But this isn't about the costs, it's about limiting choices.

That is essentially my stance (pregnancy being the choice) and maternity costs are part of the premium you pay. I would agree that the particular legislation is aimed at removing choice, my comments were directed at large. I don't think insurance should cover negligence unless you pay for it in the premium although it's difficult to clearly define what that is in the first place in regards to health.

[Tyrath]

Hey tyrath, how was that tornado?

Am I wooshing? What tornado?