2.1 Patch Notes

**cassiraa** · 2013-12-17 04:05

When people play hundreds of games of chess, it's because each game is a fun experience.

When people farm for gil, they are looking towards a rewarding payoff for their work.

Advancing your character should be enjoyable because the time spent is a fun experience AND has a rewarding payoff. That's the drive that keeps people playing MMOs. Not farming fire clusters for relics or apkallu for housing.

**Ezek** · 2013-12-17 04:06

Anticipating another maintenance extension seeing as how the game still isn't up, lol.

**Foxer** · 2013-12-17 04:07

Stayed up hoping they would go up early.

**Rocl** · 2013-12-17 04:11

I'm okay with extensions but releasing news of an extension after/1min before is annoying as fuck bro

**Kairos** · 2013-12-17 04:12

I just don't understand why everyone feels like they should be entitled to be within range of a Large Free Company (not personal) house. Every free company is not entitled to be able to afford a large house the same way every player in XI wasn't entitled to a relic weapon the first few years of the game. It's supposed to be expensive.

Focusing on personal housing first, and FC housing after would have made everyone happy, but then we'd still be complaining because if the housing implementation ended up being a catastrophe they'd spend the next two updates fixing it because everyone will have already run out to buy housing. At least this way they get to test out their execution before they spread the content to nearly all players, and they will have a small group to test it on.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2013-12-17 04:12

If a "small group of friends" managed to make a ton of money on high-traffic items while not undercutting each other (not that difficult) and not getting significantly undercut by other sellers (more difficult), congrats for real. That certainly isn't the norm on Hyperion as high traffic crap just falls and falls.

I know, again, "should have sold when it was still good". Hindsight sucks.

**Prothescar** · 2013-12-17 04:13

Play button up, but still can't connect to datacenters and if you try it closes the game >:C

**Deadgye** · 2013-12-17 04:15

Originally Posted by Foxer

If you guys seriously look at farming 3 stacks of fleece, while spiritbonding 2 sets of TIII-TIV materia (1.5-2 hours?) as huge investment, then I can't do anything for you. I guess some people just like posting for the sake of posting.

Going by what I remember from farming fleece, 3 stacks of fleece would take about 2-3 hours of dedicated non-stop farming. You also wouldn't be able to get anything better than t3 materia because the mobs won't bond ilvl55 gear at any rate considered worthwhile. Therefore if I spent 2-3 hours every day for 4 weeks I'd still end up with less than 5m.

That is not fucking "trying a little". Arguing against me on that is just plain denial or retardation. If you had enough time to waste, you could make enough/plenty of it-- but don't insult me by saying you could easily make 10m+ by simply "trying a little".

**Ezek** · 2013-12-17 04:19

Welp, play button is gone again and the Lodestone site is spitting out 404 errors.

**Classikmage** · 2013-12-17 04:20

Originally Posted by Ezek

Welp, play button is gone again and the Lodestone site is spitting out 404 errors.

Thanks guys, all the millions of F5'rs borked the game!!

**Foxer** · 2013-12-17 04:21

Originally Posted by Deadgye

Going by what I remember from farming fleece, 3 stacks of fleece would take about 2-3 hours of dedicated non-stop farming. You also wouldn't be able to get anything better than t3 materia because the mobs won't bond ilvl55 gear at any rate considered worthwhile. Therefore if I spent 2-3 hours every day for 4 weeks I'd still end up with less than 5m.

That is not fucking "trying a little". Arguing against me on that is just plain denial or retardation. If you had enough time to waste, you could make enough/plenty of it-- but don't insult me by saying you could easily make 10m+ by simply "trying a little".

Are people in this thread serious? Are we still thinking anyone in any way at all said 1 person should easily be able to fund an FC house? lol

For the sake of thread, I'm gonna go ahead and say you're all right. A few people putting in a few hours of farm a week for a few weeks is a lot of work and certainly not possible for the average player. We're all supposed to single-handedly afford everything when it launches or immediately after it launched, and everything about this game is bad.

lolinsulting

**Prothescar** · 2013-12-17 04:23

fuck all this, i'm going to sleep. my puppy minion can wait until tomorrow

**MIGhunter** · 2013-12-17 04:24

Originally Posted by cassiraa

When people play hundreds of games of chess, it's because each game is a fun experience.

When people farm for gil, they are looking towards a rewarding payoff for their work.

Advancing your character should be enjoyable because the time spent is a fun experience AND has a rewarding payoff. That's the drive that keeps people playing MMOs. Not farming fire clusters for relics or apkallu for housing.

How do you use gil as and example of a reward but then say farming apkallu or fire clusters is a waste? It's the same reward only a different item.

**Ezek** · 2013-12-17 04:24

I'm such a nerd that I went to sleep early and woke up at 3am EST in the hopes of playing this game.

what is wrong with me

**Kairos** · 2013-12-17 04:25

I was logged in, for two seconds, but then when i hit data centers they said "oops sorry, forgot something. Please look forward to it later!"

**Falisa** · 2013-12-17 04:25

Sure do wish they would at least make a post about when servers aren't going to be up again.

**Ezek** · 2013-12-17 04:26

Do we have a location on where the Aesthetician is going to be located in each town? Because that's the first thing I'm going head to when I actually log in.

edit: nvm

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2013-12-17 04:26

Originally Posted by Falisa

Sure do wish they would at least make a post about when servers aren't going to be up again.

Probably F5'ing to place their message alongside all the people F5'ing to see it.

Originally Posted by Ezek

Do we have a location on where the Aesthetician is going to be located in each town? Because that's the first thing I'm going head to when I actually log in.

Patch notes say a quest in Limsa (X11 Y11 Upper Decks), then he's available at retainer summoning bell.

**Deadgye** · 2013-12-17 04:26

Originally Posted by Foxer

Are people in this thread serious? Are we still thinking anyone in any way at all said 1 person should easily be able to fund an FC house? lol

Not what I said, and not what I argued against:

Originally Posted by Foxer

Lots of people are sitting on 10-20 million, cause you know, they tried a little. lol

Fuck off with your strawmans. I'm not responding in kind or dealing with this bullshit anymore. Learn to own up when you get called on your bullshit.

**Rocl** · 2013-12-17 04:27

Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez

Probably F5'ing to place their message alongside all the people F5'ing to see it.

They have a twitter which updates like 15min later

40min ago they updated the EU maint notes to say 1 hr extension. clearly that was intended to be another 1 hr extension

(judging by JP notes, it wasn't and the EU notes were just way late)

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