2.1 Patch Notes

[Katlan]

Not much reason to do relic quests anymore.

Titan Weapon roughly equivalent to NQ relic
iLV 90 Weapon from Extreme Primals roughly equivalent to HQ relic and don't need to spend 900 myth

I realize the secondary stats may be preferable on certain relics to the counterparts mentioned above, but I see myself doing Titan Weapon > Extreme Primal Weapon for any additional classes going forward.

Dunno, I find a lot of relic weapons are shit for stats. Bow, smn, and sch are pretty lolstat wise. If even take Titan now over relic+1 if Titan dmg is the same as NQ relic

[Seravi Edalborez]

Easy way to test now, see if 2 BLMs doing that with Apocatapotatostasis works that way.

This works fyi

Hypothetically if a full 8man equipped Virus (DoW Jobs go Class to pick it up, lol) you could keep it up for ~80 seconds, but then would have to face 60s Antibody anyways. This is also assuming Fever falling off doesn't also trigger Antibody.

[Spider-Dan]

You'll still need to do it on 1 job to meet the dps requirement to actually clear the EX primal content but after that yea its nice for your other jobs when u get into farm mode.

I think you can probably beat Titan EX with an i80 weapon.

[fren.]

Lol

[Rocl]

This works fyi

Hypothetically if a full 8man equipped Virus (DoW Jobs go Class to pick it up, lol) you could keep it up for ~80 seconds, but then would have to face 60s Antibody anyways. This is also assuming Fever falling off doesn't also trigger Antibody.

jfc lol i was far too lazy to actually test/ really care since i can't think of an instance where i'd want it but just lol

[Katlan]

I think you can probably beat Titan EX with an i80 weapon.

Depends on the job. If you need that +1 dmg from a bard ilv 80 v 90 (when now Titan bow will be better than NQ relic) then your group will be having bigger issues

[Seravi Edalborez]

jfc lol i was far too lazy to actually test/ really care since i can't think of an instance where i'd want it but just lol

If they really wanted it to work the way they intended they should have just made Virus go on its own diminishing returns timer. Once again SE doesn't think hard enough!

[holanicky]

Ironically casuals are the ones that would be most interested in housing.

yea right
killing the same bosses over and over and over and over and over again every week is hardcore.
it was hardcore for the first few times, after that its just like brushing your teeth or washing your face.

whats hardcore in this game? get all the achievement, get the overpriced house. not the two hours you spend in dungeon every week.

[Kincard]

do you know why casuals like fluff stuff like housing

because the "fun" part of it isn't something that is mathematically quantifiable, you don't go "str times attack equals damage therefore this setup is best" etc etc, you go "i sure love having my hammock hanging over the stove so i can RP my character cooking sleeping and masturbating at the same time, time to invite my friends over"

all you people going "oh mai a hardcore challenge finally" dont seem to understand that buying the actual house isnt supposed to be the "achievement" part of housing

i dont have a problem if they have super expensive high end houses for the gigantic FCs but its clear as day they they're just trying to clean out the rmt gil by making actual players suffer, which is fucking stupid

[Deadgye]

-Rain of Death TP cost is also going down to 180 (from 200)

I guess I won't say "fuck" as loud now when I hit Rain of Death by accident when it's not free?

The "The effects of the following actions can now be overwritten by the original caster, regardless of the difference in potency:" (obviously referring to overwriting DoTs) has no mention of specific moves in the JP notes; just a broad system mechanic change.

If this means I can keep my dots up fulltime instead of waiting for it to wear off then I guess yay? Gonna be burning through my tp a lot faster though.

[Taruranto]

This wording has been bothering me. If Antibody only takes effect after Virus wears can't you still Virus rotation simply by overwriting the Virus 1-2s before it wears? And what about Fever? Does Antibody prevent a SMN/SCH from applying Fever since it's a separate effect than Virus.

Edit: Eh, I immediately went to check FR/JP notes and FR ones say Antibody protects them from the Virus spell. Which I guess makes sense and is clearer since both the status and the spell are named "Virus" but meh the JP is just as vague saying a "new Virus can't be applied"

Emergency maintenance incoming.

[Kincard]

I guess I won't say "fuck" as loud now when I hit Rain of Death by accident when it's not free?


If this means I can keep my dots up fulltime instead of waiting for it to wear off then I guess yay? Gonna be burning through my tp a lot faster though.

Heh, i do that thing with RoD all the time too, because it takes like 2 seconds for the buff to disappear after i used to it and I don't know if it's the server being dumb, so I by the time I see it wear off the game thinks I want to queue RoD again.

For DoTs though, it's just a safety net IMO, the final tick goes right as it wears off if I'm not mistaken so it's a lot better for you to be patient and let them wear.

[arus2001]

i dont have a problem if they have super expensive high end houses for the gigantic FCs but its clear as day they they're just trying to clean out the rmt gil by making actual players suffer, which is fucking stupid

This seems to be SE's common theme when it comes to economic decisions. First keeping crafting gimped on potential (because RMT) and now stupidly overpriced housing (because RMT). It's certainly two-faced anti-casual practices at play. :/

[Alkar]

Not much reason to do relic quests anymore.

Titan Weapon roughly equivalent to NQ relic
iLV 90 Weapon from Extreme Primals roughly equivalent to HQ relic and don't need to spend 900 myth

I realize the secondary stats may be preferable on certain relics to the counterparts mentioned above, but I see myself doing Titan Weapon > Extreme Primal Weapon for any additional classes going forward.

Huh? Relics are way easier to get than the alternative method you suggest. That's the whole reason as you can easily upgrade with 2 weeks of myth farming. Most people can't beat Titan, how are they gonna beat the EX modes?

[Spider-Dan]

Hawk's Eye - The effect has been changed to increase DEX by 15% and guarantee that all attacks land.

So if I read this correctly, Hawk's Eye is now effectively a 20sec Elemental Seal for BLM/SMN/THM/ACN/CNJ?

Might be particularly useful in PvP.

[Korialstrasz]

Do we have any information on the actual sizes of the small/medium/large plots of land? I know there have been various videos and pictures showing housing, but I don't believe they specified which type they were.

[Mistress Stowastiq]

Do we have any information on the actual sizes of the small/medium/large plots of land? I know there have been various videos and pictures showing housing, but I don't believe they specified which type they were.

If you check the recent Letter From the Producer, I think it was the one before the most recent one if not the one before that. It was focused on housing and has all the sizes shown with Q&A.
Edit: Below is a link from the end of the post on the lodestone @ 11/25/2013 12:00 AM Housing Preview (11/25/2013)

For more details on the housing, check out Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX.
(http://sqex.to/Bh5)

[Katlan]

Do we have any information on the actual sizes of the small/medium/large plots of land? I know there have been various videos and pictures showing housing, but I don't believe they specified which type they were.

Small house is slightly bigger than an inn room and can hold 50 pieces of furniture.

Medium house is 3 stories (basemen, main story, 2nd story) and can hold 150 pieces of furniture

Large house is same as medium house (but bigger rooms) and can hold 200 pieces of furniture

[Kaope]

About the extreme primal weapons, so you can use any jobs in order to receive the specific weapon you want right? Not like when doing relics quest?

[Enygma55]

You get like a key item from each primal and trade all 3 for a weapon of your choosing