FFXIV PVP Discussion Thread: HAHAH SLEEP!

[shepardG]

Blm's kite everyone, cause they will chase you cause of the sleep threat
3 others Focus WHM/SCH and finish.

Early strat that seems to be working pretty hard

[Fojoop]

How long does it take to get rank30? Did anyone math how many marks you will obtain before getting there? I want to know if its' worth picking up the full ILVL70 set even though I'm in full ilvl90 PVE gear. The morale will make ilvl 70 stuff shit all over ilvl 90 PVE gear I'm guessing, but if getting rank30 isn't that insane I could just keep my points and buy it all once I reach 30. I want to know if I'll have enough marks for full ilvl90 stuff by the time I'm rank30 and enough for full ilvl 70 as well or if rank30 won't take very long.

Has anyone done the math on morale? What are the percentages?

Are status effect "Resists" RNG or duration?

[Eldelphia]

From what I'm reading it doesn't take long to level to the point where sleep is less of an issue? Looking forward to trying this on SCH, maybe with Selene.

[Fojoop]

About 5 wins solves pretty much all sleep problems, you need to win hundreds of games to solve the other numerous problems with PVP though, especially as a healer.

[Eldelphia]

I can't wait. I have SMN and SCH to try :D

[Avarice]

Life of a Paladin: Shield Bash, Shield Bash, Shield Bash, Shield Bash, run around auto-attacking while waiting for TP, Shield Bash, Shield Bash, Shield Bash

At least initially.

[The Stig]

Won't diminishing returns make stun useless after the 3rd?

(might've missed a sarcastic hint/joke somewhere)

[Eldelphia]

Anyone know if the pvp gear takes anything in particular to craft?

[Avarice]

Won't diminishing returns make stun useless after the 3rd?

(might've missed a sarcastic hint/joke somewhere)

Yes, but with four people to stunlock, and the fact that the resistance wears off really fast (after the "full resist" stun, it's only about 10-15 seconds until the next stun on them will be full duration again), it's not that bad. What I'm more on the line about is whether I should be using VIT/Parry accessories, or go with STR/Crit/Det. People ignore tanks as is, so no real need for the boosted HP.

[Mistress Stowastiq]

Is it possible to observe live pvp between others or is it in a closed instance where only active participants can see the battle?

[Carth]

Odd question, but does Provoke do anything in PvP?

[Ggrab]

It seem like we can't have all the PVP ability at rank30


On mnk to get axe kick3 cost 12 AP.



If it 1 rank = 1 ap then it will feel very gimp =/

[Rocl]

Odd question, but does Provoke do anything in PvP?

Someone provoked me and it said it had no effect so I'm guessing no?

[Deadgye]

and the fact that the resistance wears off really fast (after the "full resist" stun, it's only about 10-15 seconds until the next stun on them will be full duration again), it's not that bad.

It doesn't work that way anymore.

[Raen Ryong]

One thing which concerns me: if you get +1 AP per rank up and there are 30 Ranks total, does that mean you can't physically unlock all abilities and you'll have to "gimp" certain roles (eg if you want to heal in PvP well at the top level, you'll have to ONLY heal in PvP and nothing else)?

[Slycer]

One thing which concerns me: if you get +1 AP per rank up and there are 30 Ranks total, does that mean you can't physically unlock all abilities and you'll have to "gimp" certain roles (eg if you want to heal in PvP well at the top level, you'll have to ONLY heal in PvP and nothing else)?

I'd have to take a look and see how ranks and AP work for sure, but they said they would be raising the rank cap to 50 when Frontlines is released, and they'll likely keep raising it further, so this may be intentional for now.

[Seravi Edalborez]

One thing which concerns me: if you get +1 AP per rank up and there are 30 Ranks total, does that mean you can't physically unlock all abilities and you'll have to "gimp" certain roles (eg if you want to heal in PvP well at the top level, you'll have to ONLY heal in PvP and nothing else)?

Yes, but there are "AP refund" items you can buy with Wolf Marks.

[Ggrab]

I'd have to take a look and see how ranks and AP work for sure, but they said they would be raising the rank cap to 50 when Frontlines is released, and they'll likely keep raising it further, so this may be intentional for now.

Yea but when they rise the rank they will add more ability too & prob more ability lvls

[Ksandra]

I really can't decide whether allagan + myth is better than the crafted pvp. Seems like there is a lot of debate going on about this. I think I do less damage with pvp gear, but survive longer which makes up for it. idk (on brd btw)

[Kidzukai]

Some guy on Reddit:

"I am in full HQ (even weapon) ilvl 55 as brd. I went head to head with a relic +1 mytho/allagan geared bard. He was hitting crits on me for around 150-250. I was hitting him for 400+"