FFXIV PVP Discussion Thread: HAHAH SLEEP!

**Yugl** · 2014-02-04 23:16

Originally Posted by Pooke

I hit rank 30 before 2.15, but I assume the experience essentially doubled while going solo? Having done some solo when my trio isn't on, I would still suggest going with a trio. Instant queues and knowing you're going with some competent skill and gear outweighs the solo boost in my opinion. Nothing is more rage inducing than seeing two AF DPS pop up, and you have to carry them through. Grinding out my last piece (accessory) for my third R30-i90 job still as a trio (wish 4's were a thing) so take that for what its worth I guess.

Premades are less stressful, but the XP is undeniably faster if you solo (You only need 25% of your matches to equal a perfect record of trios). Faster queues depends on your PT's roles. I think we both agree, however, that joining 50s with piss poor gear invites criticism.

**Kipling** · 2014-02-05 00:42

A lot of times when we solo, duo or trio Q the most undergeared people are the ones that bark orders or are the most toxic. In my experience, anyway.

**Eanae** · 2014-02-05 00:51

What skill setup are people running on MRD? Considering maxing full swing, 1 into enliven, 1 into purify, 1 into STR, 2 into Glory Slash, then 1 into something.

**Yugl** · 2014-02-05 01:27

Took this from Blue Blanket's post:

Myhril Tempest ( II and III)
Full Swing (I and III)
Thrill of war (III)
Enliven
Purify

all my extra stats are in Strength

**Argantes** · 2014-02-05 03:19

Originally Posted by Yugl

Solo queue is the most expedient form of XP assuming you manage even minimal success rate.

As for gear, your attitude is really no different than the sentiment expressed within this guide. Telling people they have to sacrifice optimal XP to avoid severely gimp members (We're talking DF Garuda EX as AF DRG tier) is pretty piss poor policy and ruins the experience for others. And then people bitch when that advice is actually taken and they form three man premades lol.

Yeah, it's insane.

I'd get it if they'd complain after the match and I was performing poorly.
The only match I lost last night, is one where some elitist chap (I even forgot what class he was) and his DRG friend called Cuban Strife, decided to bitch more than actually trying to play and we got destroyed.
They got killed IN the starting area.

The next match I was with them again and we won the match without much hassle.
They still bitched, but at least stopped when the gates opened this time.

He was also actually the one who told me to queue 30/40 till I at least had i70 pvp gear.
That I should "Get myself to the right place" or some shit.

**Madeline** · 2014-02-06 09:37

There are people like that everywhere. I stopped looking at PVP as win/loss, but more of a point grind. Especially before R30, most of the time 50 matches are a bit one-sided.

There's a guy with a macro that likes to chew out anyone that isn't i90, going on about how hard he worked for it and doesn't want others working for it "on his time." I'm only ilv70 but I've done 1-23 in little less than a week ignoring the tards and just queueing regardless of what people whine on about.

**Kipling** · 2014-02-06 09:55

Originally Posted by Nep

There are people like that everywhere. I stopped looking at PVP as win/loss, but more of a point grind. Especially before R30, most of the time 50 matches are a bit one-sided.

There's a guy with a macro that likes to chew out anyone that isn't i90, going on about how hard he worked for it and doesn't want others working for it "on his time." I'm only ilv70 but I've done 1-23 in little less than a week ignoring the tards and just queueing regardless of what people whine on about.

The real grind starts at 24. 1-24 is the same exp as 24-30.

Also, the matches are only one sided if the players with better gear are actually good. It is completely possible to outplay even a team of i90 players if they make mistakes or get outplayed, regardless of what the community likes to broadcast to the contrary to make themselves feel better.

**Madeline** · 2014-02-06 10:09

Oh yeah, I've killed PLENTY of ilv90 people that are just trash. That's kind of my point though--it really is just a point grind. You can get there be it by being rubbish, albeit taking longer.. or by being decent enough and winning. I've honestly been surprised a couple times at some of the gear people have only to be utterly terrible. Healers and tanks namely.

Just that the last few nights the premade and well-coordinated 90 groups have been out in full force. I'm finding it quicker to queue for 30/40 alone where I've won most matches. Especially when people don't gear out for those levels. My last 50 match was 7 minutes long that ended in a fucking healer being LBed. I usually don't run into that in earlier levels.

And I had no idea the exp jumped up that much. I've got a while to go still. =(

**Kipling** · 2014-02-06 10:54

Ah I see, that's good. I just get really annoyed when I see people all over reddit and the OF going on about how your best bet against even one i90 is to just give up and get to the next match faster.

**Pooke** · 2014-02-06 11:27

Yea I've lost games as 3 r30s due to the 4th breaking cc's and just hitting what is in front of them...anything is possible. It has been fairly regular that when some groups see me standing at the gate (other two are lalas and too short to be seen!) they'll bend over to end it fast..which makes sense if you know the group is geared and good and you know what you're stuck with isn't going to match.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2014-02-06 12:14

Just as an aside, without FC buffs how many marks should you expect to make on the road to 30? Like if I'm only in it for a few i90 pieces for vanity/PvE stuff, is my limitation gonna be the exp to rank 30 or the marks to actually buy said items?

**Madeline** · 2014-02-06 12:21

Given the 10% buff from FC, I've bought my entire I70 set and have accumulated another 16k points so far and this is with blowing points on an action reset. You need 57150? for a full I90 set. I still have 7 ranks to go and the exp requirement is doubling. I would say without the buff, the problem would be the marks. If you don't buy I70 gear? You can probably buy the 90 set as soon as you can use it, probably before.

That said, if you don't buy I70 and go into the 50s, you are a walking bullseye.

**Pooke** · 2014-02-06 12:26

I had full i90 for mrd and the shield for pld along with some change for the sword when I hit 30, also did it in full i70 until then. This was with about a 75% win rate...so whatever all of that totals -5 to -10% fc buff...the new boosts to pvp will also play a factor.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2014-02-06 12:31

Pieces I need only total up to 15750. Been avoiding 50 cap anyways but may want to blow some marks on a skill reset because I bought the SCH knockback move and I'm finding it really sucks.

**Yugl** · 2014-02-06 14:19

By the time you reach 30, you'll typically have enough points for a full iLV70 and iLV90 set. I didn't since I burned points on the old wolf's tome price and a new one (Total of roughly 7k ish). If you're only ranking up for the two pieces, XP will be your primary concern. At rank 30, I have 46,800XP roughly. That means you'll have enough for iLV70 set and your iLV90 pieces. I'll PM you a list of PVP abilities you should purchase/order as well as iLV70 gear.

**Kipling** · 2014-02-06 14:29

This assumes FC buff: You will guaranteed have enough points for one i70 set and an i90 completed set before you even reach 30. I had enough to get both a BLM and SMN weapon, with a few points left over for a reset scroll right after I hit 30.

**BerenTebogo** · 2014-02-09 15:25

How are BLMs spending their AP?

**Baleoce** · 2014-02-15 16:16

I'm pretty much just starting PvP. I've bought all the i55 HQ set to start me off. Are there any general directions I should be pointed in for WAR? Whether to focus VIT or STR in bonus attrib / accessories etc.

**Yugl** · 2014-02-15 19:31

Go MRD instead of WAR. You're basically playing as a third DPS with stun/Holm/PVP skills to CC for the team. Make sure you begin with LV30/40 PVP instead of LV50. In fact, sell the iLV55 HQ set and rock iLV90 STR gear for LV30/40 (Even LV50 if you still plan to do that; would not recommend that though). Morale has no effect when you PVP at the LV30/40 bracket.

**Kipling** · 2014-02-15 21:35

Originally Posted by SathFenrir

How are BLMs spending their AP?

Here's what I did personally (note: I am set up so I can play BLM or SMN on the fly so it's about 1 upgrade away from what I would consider truly optimal for both jobs if I was only focusing on one):

Aetheric Burst - Initial, second and third upgrades.
Equanimity - Initial and second upgrades.
Mana Draw - Initial upgrade.
Purify - Initial Upgrade
Night Wing - Initial and second upgrade.

If I was to be truly optimal for only BLM I would probably drop what I have in Wither for SMN and Mana Draw, and do Phantom Dart initial and potency upgrade.

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