FFXIV PVP Discussion Thread: HAHAH SLEEP!

**Lucavi** · 2014-07-12 22:13

I can't really call that bad luck if you've got 37 wins.

**solracht** · 2014-07-12 22:20

Just had a match where nobody called out where the teams were going in alliance chat (although markers were placed by the door) and it resulted in both A and C going to the same camp, lol.

I don't really like PVP in other games but this event has been an absolute blast with 3-4 friends.

**Tobi** · 2014-07-12 22:30

Originally Posted by Lucavi

I can't really call that bad luck if you've got 37 wins.

Well, I meant mainly in terms of the new queue and those who don't hit commence usually end up being mainly maelstrom. We finally got shitted on for the first time ever for me, 600ish standing while the flames/adder had 1500+, felt so bad, doesn't help ppl were leaving mid match too but whatever, lol. I don't mind the losses since 200exp is still pretty solid.

**Lucavi** · 2014-07-12 22:54

Yeah I only care about my record because I'm a competitor, but SE had better be watching for AFK bots, as rewarding that much XP even for losses without factoring in kills/heals/damage is going to see AFK bots eventually.

Every PVP game has them; its a reality of having something that has gear at the end worth obtaining.

**Pruviant** · 2014-07-12 23:38

Originally Posted by solracht

I don't really like PVP in other games but this event has been an absolute blast with 3-4 friends.

This. I had 200ish Soldiery to cap when I logged in this afternoon (vacation) and after 3-4 hours of doing Frontlines (which flew by because it was with friends) I was capped.

My only complaint: WHMs that camp the middle ramps and Aero > Fluid Aura me off the side to my death. Such a cheap move. Brilliant, but cheap.

**Tobi** · 2014-07-12 23:51

MRD/WAR, BRD, SCH, and SMN can also do that too, its hilarious as fuck and I love doing it to others. Also, does anyone know what determines if you get extra exp/marks? There were few games where I got 330 for 2nd over the usual 300, and 230 for 3rd over the usual 200.

**Lucavi** · 2014-07-13 00:26

Originally Posted by Pruviant

My only complaint: WHMs that camp the middle ramps and Aero > Fluid Aura me off the side to my death. Such a cheap move. Brilliant, but cheap.

Whm needs dat self defense. Here's what you do. Swiftcast sleep >> sleep again (anticipating the breakout move) >> fluid >> hilarious pose as they get salty to their death.

**BerenTebogo** · 2014-07-13 00:48

I too would like to know about bonus points. I've had times where I've gotten 7 kills on SCH but no points, then like 1 kill on WAR and get 440.

**Tobi** · 2014-07-13 01:40

Yeah, the bonus really has me confused and I have no clue what its based on. My last match gave 480exp on a win on top of 660 marks, I don't see what I'm doing differently either to determine the bonus or not.

**Jem** · 2014-07-13 11:28

It might be something to do with occupations? Both times I got the bonus, I had occupied bases. But god knows. (EDIT: Just got it a third time with an occupation)

I've also come to the conclusion that Grid is god awful on the datacentre I'm on. My 1/2/3 is pretty even but the losses are always really heavy and the victories really close. Always seem to be missing tons of people too.

**Niiro** · 2014-07-13 12:10

Q enters at 62/72

"Eh, that's not too bad"

8 of the missing people are from your alliance.

**Caiyuo** · 2014-07-13 14:09

Doing a metric shit ton of Frontlines and can already afford the animal-themed PVP armor, but does anyone know if Wolves Den will rank you up faster? Winning a level 40 match gives less than 100xp, but I'm doubtful of being able to walk into Lv50 Wolves Den without Direwolf gear and any experience. If the XP was worthwhile it might be worth spinning the Frontlines Marks into the lesser PVP gear for Wolves Den, but I don't want to waste it if not, lol.

**Niiro** · 2014-07-13 14:43

They increased the amount of exp you get from Wolve's Den matches but it's entirely irrelevant anyway for 2 reasons:

1) You can't wear that gear without sufficient rank.
2) No one is going to be doing Wolve's Den.

I haven't even managed to get the 10 matches needed for the weekly challenge log bonus. Wolve's Den was always pretty dead, it got a little more popular when they announced FL, then when they announced Morale wouldn't apply to FL it was completely empty. Now that FL is actually out there's really no reason for anyone to even go there.

**Caiyuo** · 2014-07-13 15:03

Yeah my experience was pretty similar, queueing with a group of 3 took a good 15 minutes before finding a Lv50 match. Lv40 was a little quicker, but the rewards are so small that you're better off doing Frontlines. I knew about the PVP rank condition hence wanting to do something with more PVP exp, but for the reasons you stated it seems like it's going to be all on Frontlines.

**Jem** · 2014-07-13 18:03

Yeah, it seems that the bonus exp is from occupations. Seems to be 10% bonus to exp per occupation. Last 2 matches I had 2 occupations and 20% bonus each time.It probably matters if they were unassisted occupations though, don't seem to get the bonus if it's like a multiman occupation.

Could be wrong but it seems to be that way to me.

EDIT: Just got a 20% bonus with no occupations so errr back to I dunno. I did take out a few drones and the node though.

**kisada** · 2014-07-13 18:05

how do the PVE things work? is it person who gets claim? most dmg? or killing blow that gets the credit

**Jem** · 2014-07-13 18:10

For Achievement purposes you just need to damage them because no way have I killed as many as my achievement says (presumably your team has to get the killshot still). For team points purposes, its killing blow. I've ganked people a few times and then just chipped off the last bit of hp to get the points.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2014-07-13 18:12

Keep in mind that killing blow is subjective. If some BLM pops Meteor on it with say 10% left (and it would for sure kill it), and everyone else does damage enough to kill it in that time, I think the BLM would get the killshot. Unless of course you killed him before his animation finished somehow.

**Neon_Sea** · 2014-07-13 19:42

Frontlines is dope, I thought pvp would be hopeless.

**Shenrien** · 2014-07-13 19:46

Battlefields are usually done better than arenas, at least that has always been my experience.

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