FFXIV PVP Discussion Thread: HAHAH SLEEP!

[Eldelphia]

Especially when, if you have people too stupid to switch to healer, you have people too stupid to help you from getting facesmashed instantly.

This is a big problem right now with groups who only have one healer. Healers tend to look out for each other but with a group who just wanna dps and not care about anyone else, a solo healer can get annihilated over and over.


Doesn't inspire you to play healer much in that circumstance. WHM is insanely fun in PvP. I'm a SCH main in PvE but PVP makes so much use of big AoE healing, let alone sleeps and stuns, WHM can be amazing fun.

[solracht]

18:30 on the timer we're still missing seven people. SEVEN PEOPLE.

F U C K

EDIT: holy shit we just filled up at 18:03
EDIT2: please post on/like Seravi's thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...the-gate-opens

[Tobi]

Since I mainly solo queue, I can only keep around 50%ish win rate at best, since my usual group always go in premade, theirs is much higher. Mine atm is 111/55/39 as Maelstrom.

I mainly queued as BRD for FL, but since most don't wanna play healer, I just main WHM in FL now. I may not be the best healer in it, but I do better than most.

[Niiro]

Ok, so I'm torn. Tried out a match on MNK for the first time, finally ran into an enemy party chock-full of healers (2 SCH, 2 WHM, assorted casters and a MRD) that actually made me re-think my position on how bad healers are. It was basically us (A) vs them for (in my perspective) the entire match, and we never took the base back until the very end. But they ended up losing by a ton anyways so I don't really know, maybe their mid team sucked.

What I found to ruin healerburn is Perfect Balance silence spam for a good ~10 seconds of "fuck you, no casting". But the first time I tried it I didn't really have the group behind me to take advantage. 2nd time it seemed to work; was able to zerg one down, then a 2nd, and the remaining 2 either blew their Divine Breath and Swiftraise or were just stupid.

Either way, only being able to be a "hard counter" every 3 minutes (or require 3 monks) is kind of extreme but I guess it's an option. Need more experience. And enough healers still basically make this pointless.

Eh, in reality this is only gonna work for stupid healers.

Any WHMs worth a shit are just gonna Fluid Aura you right the hell out and any SCH can opt to use Aura Blast if they feel it's necessary.

[BerenTebogo]

Or attunement for the entire duration of PB.

[Seravi Edalborez]

I swear on one occasion I've had Attunement dispelled from me, but must have been a fluke hit. I think if you had enough monks you could annoy your way through a few, stupid healers. But yeah, the more I think about that scenario I was in the more I think that most of those healers were just stupid or bandwagoning.

[Lucavi]

Most of my matches today have looked like this:


In my experience Frontlines is about Maelstrom vs Adders. Every now and then, Flames do something.

Its cuz I'm still on vacation. Enjoy your free wins until I get back on Wednesday!

[Rocl]

I swear on one occasion I've had Attunement dispelled from me, but must have been a fluke hit. I think if you had enough monks you could annoy your way through a few, stupid healers. But yeah, the more I think about that scenario I was in the more I think that most of those healers were just stupid or bandwagoning.

There's definitely something that removes Attunement, I swore I hit Attune->Purify and dispelled by own Attunement too but I was probably just very retarded.

[Elcura]

Today is Flames vs Maels, with Adders slacking a lot. But goddamn if I'm not sad that 90% of B parties let the side down. I swear Flames and Mael were neck and neck and the Flames just decided to chase down everyone without a healer and dies, so we lost.

[Kaisha]

Had three rounds in a row where both the other teams had no healers, and only 1-2 players on the one side would bother to change to one mid match after we're well behind. Also bullshit that if someone d/cs midmatch and doesn't return within 5min, odds are you won't be able to vote kick them due to battle status always being up.

Alliance members in Frontlines share markers like they do in CT right? Because sometimes it feels like it doesn't when you get reinforcements that go attack random players instead of focusing down the numbered targets, and you still wipe with the extra numbers.

[Wulfgang]

It's like the Flames are automated bots. They just keep attacking our (Mael) S base one person at a time, dying, then coming back one by one, dying, etc. Maelstrom queues blow though Blast shot is awesome PS; even if you're not knocking people off a tower, I reset a base claim timer by knocking all ~6 people out of the circle then running away lol.

[Neon_Sea]

Cool little trick for healers and casters in general, always click your auto attack on whatever target you are engaged too as it allows for more interrupt chances.

[Gokulo]

So I started doing Frontlines today. As scholar I have like 3,8k HP and so have other healers usually, but seen 2 that had 4,6k, is that gear difference or what? Im like ilv 93 so I get synced anyway.

[solracht]

VIT jewelry

[Seravi Edalborez]

Which you pretty much need if you don't want to get oneshot by Melee LB1

[Akiyama]

Which you pretty much need if you don't want to get oneshot by Melee LB1

pretty sure LB1 will one shot anyway unless you have like..sacred soil/stoneskin/adlo and even then it's iffy is it not?

[Seravi Edalborez]

Typically I see it do like 4400ish? Which you can survive with 4600ish. Granted, you need to also not be getting hit by other people or otherwise curebombed during it. Attunement will also mitigate it heavily but difficult to do on reaction. I do know for sure that VIT accs can allow a healer to survive it. Our coil MNK's cries of anguish on multiple occasions assure me of that, as well as personal confirmation on the receiving end.

[Kaixin]

with 30 vit/vit acc/vit pvp bonuses i get to like 5.4k. what limit break?

[Akiyama]

with 30 vit/vit acc/vit pvp bonuses i get to like 5.4k. what limit break?

usually I pop off a quick rotation + limitbreak so 5.4k still wouldn't be enough but I guess it's more than normal lol

[Seravi Edalborez]

Main point being any healer with 0 investment in VIT, LB1 will pretty much always one-shot by a large margin.